Topsight E – JHMCS
Litening III may be a bit inferior to Sniper
MICA EM < AMRAAM C-5
MICA IR > F 16 has nothing comparable.
F 16 is naturally better A2G, in A2A the upgrade brings Mirage 2000 on par.
My bad possibly mixed up hack job and hatchet job.
It means a bad job probably ends up in making them useless. Like the Navy’s LUSH(According to CAG).
It is expensive yes, but I reckon at the end of the day the Mirages were just too important for the IAF to be upgraded with third-party systems in a hatchet job.
I will bet two rupees that none of the twin engined fighters will win the MRCA.
ROCAF has to defend itself to allow the US time to get involved. But it would be incorrect to state that they’d simply be overwhelmed otherwise, inch by inch, the ROC is probably one of the most fortified/well defended pieces on real estate on this planet & to take it, the PRC has to do a cross strait landing. That itself is a near impossible undertaking, if the ROC maintains a credible capability to interdict. Even without US involvement, any attempt to conquer the ROC would be very challenging.
Without USN the PRC will shell and bombard Taiwan to smitherenes before any attempted landing akin to what Americans did in Japanese islands in WW2.
hehe pick your poison.
French will rip you off with upgrades that cost as much as a new airplane
the Russians will deliver your product at a very slow rate and give you headaches with spares and integration
the Americans will simply stop support if things don’t go politically their way.
has India considered buying from China, maybe J-10s?
1. You can basically do anything with the Rafale no restrictions on bombing anyone or using it for Nuclear delivery. No French sanctions or stopping delivery of parts even India tests Nuclear weapons in future.
2.After initial teething issues if selected the MIG 35 will eventually turn into a potent platform for the IAF. Its the MRCA contender where you can put the most locally derived systems now and in future upgrades, with the Russians not much interested in its design India may even get the chance to make them for export.
3. The Risk of American sanctions are way less than it once used to be. American fighters offer the most bang for the buck and the most mature and ready designs so that you can go to war with the the next day.
The worlds economy goes into a tailspin and trillions are lost within hours.
I am worried about spares for my Hyundai.
(Sells car,mobile, tv etc. and buys European)
I don’t see the point of ROCAF having anything more than a token air-force. U.S support is the life-blood of Taiwan and as long as its there Taiwan has little to worry about, once it goes it hardly matters whether they have some F 35 or F 22s, they will simply be overwhelmed.
coming from an american embassy, this source could/should be taken with a bit of salt I guess.
I would be eager to see the exact part subject to such license and how hard it would be to remplace them (not speaking of the political cost).
All in all, a Rafale/Typhoon/Gripen NG would still put India way less at risk of US political cloud than an US plane. And if ever USA was trying to annoy Rafale/Typhoon/Gripen NG they would not only annoy India but as well the selling country, which both would try to change the situation. Once again, something quite different than having an US plane.
Who would you rather believe in this matter. Dassault who has two deals worth nearly 20 billion at stake or the US Embassy who has no reason to lie to the USG in a classified cable.
Also Kramer, It only makes sense for the Americans to apply pressure before any deal is signed and not after. IF the Gripen is selected and then the Americans playing underhand tactics will further erode their market position in India and also it won’t help GE. Even Tejas re-engining would be put into question.
Also on the F414 ToT, I think since Tejas will also be using it, it would be more benefical to India than any other engine offered.
So whatever tricks Americans may try they will try now before the deal is clinched by some one, after that they will not be disruptive force, unless of course we go on and explode a nuke of some kind. 😉
Over the last few months, the French sales effort has been
based on a misleading, if not fraudulent, claim that their
plane involves only French content (rendering it free of
meddlesome U.S. export controls). This is not the case. A
DTSA analysis found a high level of U.S. content, including
targeting systems, radar components and safety systems that
will require U.S. licenses.
From Aspis’ post on Rafale for Brazil thread. From a U.S Embassy cable. Might as well buy American folks.
For me the only relevant bit is this
Over the last few months, the French sales effort has been
based on a misleading, if not fraudulent, claim that their
plane involves only French content (rendering it free of
meddlesome U.S. export controls). This is not the case. A
DTSA analysis found a high level of U.S. content, including
targeting systems, radar components and safety systems that
will require U.S. licenses.
That means a lot to the Indian and Brazil competitons whatever you buy, you buy American strings.
And Shiv Aroor is reporting problems for the MIG 29K – scare mongering or are there real issues.
Possibly there is nothing Chinese would do except some angry rhetoric, but none of our leaders have the will power to sell arms to Taiwan.
And there is no point in getting on the wrongside of China over an issue like Taiwan, there are issues much closer to home to deal with first. This is the reason why even Americans don’t sell certain arms to Taiwan anymore. They don’t have any strategic value for us especially.
With due respect the status of Taiwan and that of Pakistan are totally different. For one we never claim Pakistan to be a part of our country.
Putin and Medvedev ?
Yes of course it would irk China and no our leaders do not have the balls. And LCA MK2s first priority is to meet IAF needs. If they deliver what they promises they will have to expand production to even meet IAF needs.
By the time HAL would be making, LCA,Su 30,MRCA,T-50 and various upgrade programs.