quadbikeIt happened in the past, and probably will happened in the future. Arab/Muslim states have a tendency to lend aircrafts and pilots to each other during past conflicts. UAE may help out by lending some of its F-16 E/F (Block 60) to counter the shortfall. The same could be true with Egypt and Saudi Arabia. Egypt alone has 200 F-16s. Pakistani pilots are probably the best in the Muslim world. They have done well in 1967 6-day war flying as “volunteers”.
Again pure speculation they will be under intense American pressure not to do the same. I think American arms are covered under various safeguards that the end user is not allowed to pass it on to others without prior permission from the U.S. Hence the U.A.E & Egypt will not be able to do so without American’s turning a blind eye, in this case they will not.
How about Saudis giving Typhoons and Tornadoes ?
quadbikeIAF helicopters supply relief material in Jammu and Kashmir’s ’s snow-affected areas
New Delhi, June 2 (ANI): The Indian Air Force (IAF) helicopters are flying sorties from Udhampur and Kishtwar as a part of the ongoing relief and rescue operations in the snow and landslide affected areas in response to a request made by the Jammu and Kashmir District Administration.
Heavy and unseasonal snowfall in the higher reaches of Jammu and Kashmir’s Kishtwar District has caused widespread landslides and led to trapping of a large number of people, mainly the Nomadic Gujjars ‘Backarwals’ and their cattle while they were migrating upwards to the pastures at higher reaches in Kishtwar for summers.
With the inhospitable terrain and approaches to most of the affected areas being closed due to landslides, the IAF’s help was sought to conduct a survey and relief team as well as to drop initial relief material in affected areas.
“On May31, we flew nine sorties from Kishtwar to Ishan inducting a team of civil administration personnel and 400 Kgs of relief material in the affected areas,” said Air Vice Marshal J Chauhan, Air Officer Commanding Jammu and Kashmir.
“Yesterday also (on June 1), a Mi-17 helicopter flew for two-and-a-half hours with the civil administration team and dropped about 300 kilograms of relief material, primarily blankets and survival food in the affected areas,” he added. (ANI)
quadbikeIndia’s LCA flies in the configuration of Indian Air Force ready for delivery in December 2010
The first flight of India’s Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Limited Series Production (LSP) aircraft, LSP-4 took place at HAL, Bangalore airport today.
A major milestone in the direction of releasing the Tejas for the IAF planned for December 2010 it was the first flight of a Tejas aircraft flying in the configuration that will be finally delivered to the Indian Air Force.
The aircraft took off at 1110 hrs and landed forty minutes later, becoming the 10th Tejas aircraft flying.The aircraft flew to an altitude of 11 km and went supersonic touching 1.1 Mach speed.
Speaking on the occasion, Mr PS Subramanyam, Director, Aeronautical Development Agency, Bangalore, said that the Tejas team is now heading to central India to carry out hot weather trials.
He expressed confidence that the aircraft would soon be flown by operational pilots of the defense services and he looked forward to that day.
Test Pilot Gp Capt Suneet Krishna, flew the aircraft with Test Director, Gp Capt D Chakravorty, guiding from the telemetry facility of National Flight Test Centre. The flight was also witnessed by ACNS (Air) at Naval HQ Cmde BS Prahar, NM.
The Indian Navy has a considerable stake in the programme, as they look to replace their Sea Harrier fleet, which is due to be phased out in due course.
quadbike2xtimes bigger air force?don´t think so,THK has over 200 F-16 and further 30 on order with the older Blocks commonly beeing modernized to Block 50+ standard and over 50 modernized Phantoms,uninteresting for A-A….
but still,yes the F-15 is superior to F-16 but both use AMRAAM and both would use them at max range….and yes Python V is superduper,but AIM-9X is also good….
i get the impression that everyone thinks,if there is a doghfight it will end for the IAF like the US Navy had 66 years ago in Philippine Sea and it will be “great Turkey shootin´time…..”
I again repeat,the times of israeli F-15/F-16 shooting down inexperienced flown MiG-21/23 are long over
Does Turkey have AIM 9x operational ?
Turkey operates further from its bases and have a plane that has inferior range and fuel capacity. It is not just about AMRAAM and all that. Turkish F 16s will much less time at station to do their work while IDF F 16/F 15s will have more. Israelis may go after the Turkish Mid Air Refuellers for example further limiting their options.
quadbikeUS Congress clears C-17 sale for India
New Delhi, June 2 (IANS) The US Congress has cleared the sale of C-17 Globemaster III strategic lift aircraft for India.
The Obama administration had notified the Congress April 23 of the potential sale of 10 aircraft to India and sought out objections or approval.
The Congressional consent has come before Wednesday’s start of the Indo-US strategic dialogue in Washington Wednesday.
The aircraft are being sold to India under the US government’s Foreign Military Sales (FMS) programme, with the maximum package value of $5.8 billion. That includes the 3.8 percent administrative fee the government charges to ensure timely delivery and guarantee the supplies.
Government-to-government deals may not necessarily be cheaper but ensure a hassle-free environment and a near-zero scope for corruption. In legal terms, such deals also ensure sovereign guarantees.
According to a report in India Strategic magazine, in the case of Gorshkov deal with Russia, after the recent agreement between New Delhi and Moscow, Moscow agreed to ensure the aircraft carrier’s delivery by Dec 4, 2012 — just before the Indian Navy Day.
During the discussions to revise the 2004 Gorshkov agreement between the two countries, Russia also ensured that work on rebuilding the carrier was not stopped.
The actual cost of the C-17 aircraft for India would be less as India would not be buying all the options and the 3.8 percent fee would be payable only on the actual amount of the deal. In some countries, the administrative fee ranges up to 18 percent.
Boeing India’s Vice President for Defense, Space and Security, Vivek Lall, told India Strategic from Washington: ‘We are pleased that India’s intent to buy 10 C-17 Globemaster III has received US Congressional approval. With this, the Indian government is one step closer to acquiring the C-17 which we believe is ideally suited to meet India’s airlift needs for military and humanitarian purposes.
‘The submittal of the Letter of Acceptance to the government of India will be the next step towards finalizing the Foreign Military Sale.’
The Indian Air Force (IAF) Chief of Staff, Air Chief Marshal P.V. Naik, said last year that IAF was looking for 10 plus 10 C-17s, described in its parlance as VHTAC, or Very Heavy Transport Aircraft, as a replacement for its ageing fleet of Soviet vintage IL-76 transport jets.
India has 17 IL-76 transporters, another six as IL-78 midair refuelers and one as an AWACS with Israeli Phalcon electronic rodome radar.
But IL-76 is out of production after the demise of the Soviet Union, and whatever useable airframes were available, they have mostly been taken by China.
An IL-76 can carry up to 45 tonnes of cargo while a C-17 can carry about 75 tonnes, and for a much longer range. A C-17 can land from grassy, football field size strips and needs only three crew members as against seven for an IL-76.
It does cost much more though.
The US Air Force has ordered a total of 223 C-17s, out of which 198 have been delivered. The 199th, shown to the Indian media team at its Boeing manufacturing facility at Long Beach, is set to join its designated squadron.
Boeing plans to continue production for about five years to ensure deliveries to the US Air Force (24), the United Emirates (six), Britain (seven) and India (10).
It should take India approximately three years to get the first C-17 after the formal agreement between the two countries is signed.
quadbikenukes?where are we now?:eek:
can we plz as hinted stay on the air forces….
so again, can anyone explain me, why the IAF is superior to THK?
One answer F 15. Superior to F 16 in almost every aspect except may be close in dog fights.
Israel also makes many of its weapons and this also could come in very handy.
And whatever people may say, any non-nuclear state will think very hard before going to war with a Nuclear State.
quadbikePython 5 is superior to any short range AAM in the Turkish Arsenal.
quadbikeIsrael have F 15s which have a range of advantages over Turkish F 16s including range, endurance and payload.
quadbikeTejas LSP 4 first flight completed.
http://tarmak007.blogspot.com/2010/06/tejas-lsp-4-maiden-flight-successful.html
quadbikeGorshkov to be handed over to India by Dec ’12[2012]
NEW DELHI: After closely examining the ongoing refit work on Admiral Gorshkov in Russia, the Navy is now confident the aircraft carrier will be ready for harbour trials by early-2011 to ensure it can be handed over to India by December 2012 or so.
This comes after a naval team, led by controller of warship production and acquisitions Vice-Admiral N N Kumar, recently visited Russia to examine the 44,570-tonne Gorshkov at the Sevmash Shipyard.
“There has been substantial progress since the last examination in September 2009. Around 99% of the structural work and almost 50% of the cabling work has been completed on the carrier. Almost all large-size equipment, like engines, diesel generators and the like, has been installed,” said an officer.
With India earlier this year agreeing to the revised refit cost of $2.33 billion for Gorshkov, after three years of bitter wrangling since the earlier agreement inked in January 2004 had earmarked only $974 million for it, Russia has appointed a high-level apex committee to oversee the work on the carrier.
Along with the fresh Gorshkov agreement, India also inked a contract with Russia for 29 more MiG-29Ks for $1.46 billion in March this year. These fighters will be in addition to the original 16 MiG-29Ks ordered through the $1.5-billion package deal for Gorshkov signed in January 2004.
The Navy plans to deploy two carrier-battle groups (CBGs) by 2014-2015, as reported by TOI earlier. The first CBG will be centred around Gorshkov, rechristened INS Vikramaditya, while the second will be on the 40,000-tonne indigenous aircraft carrier (IAC) being constructed at the Cochin Shipyard, which Navy hopes to get by 2014.
As of now, the Navy is “stretching” the operational life of the 50-year-old 28,000-tonne INS Viraat, even though it’s left with only 11 of its Sea Harrier jump-jets.
quadbikeThree Indian Naval Ships On Goodwill Visit To Malaysia June 20-23
KUALA LUMPUR, June 2 (Bernama) — Three Indian Navy ships will be visiting Port Klang on a goodwill visit from June 20 to 23.
The visit by the INS Ranjit, INS Rana and INS Jyoti, under the command of Rear Admiral P. Murugesan, Flag Officer Commanding Eastern Fleet, was to commemorate the long friendship and maritime cooperation between the two nations, the Indian High Commission said in a statement here Wednesday.
The ships set sail from Port Blair in May as part of their eastward deployment.
The statement said Murugesan and the commanding officers would call on the local military and civil dignitaries during the ships’ stay here.
Many social interactions between the two navies had also been planned, including sports, beach cleaning, community services at old folks homes and medical camps.
The ships will be open to the public for two days on June 21 and 22.
quadbikeUPA report card surprise: A look at n-submarine
India’s nuclear submarine Arihant — classified as top secret so far — has finally been revealed to the world after its picture was carried in the UPA’s report to the people that was released by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on Tuesday.
The first-ever photograph of the super secret submarine, which was launched in July last year at Visakhapatnam, has been published in the ‘security’ section of the report, surprising experts and analysts who had been trying for months to catch a glimpse of India’s first indigenous nuclear submarine.
Till now, the project had been highly classified and all the world had seen of the nuclear attack submarine were artist’s impressions and cross sections drawn by a handful of people, including mediapersons, who saw the submarine at the launch ceremony last year. The photograph in the report seems to be of the same ceremony and shows the submarine in the same dock where it was constructed.
The navy, which is in charge of the security of the project, still considers the photographs of the Arihant as classified. After the submarine was launched almost a year ago, it was moved to another closed dock in Visakhapatnam under the cover of darkness to prevent hovering observation satellites from getting a snapshot.
The government now seems to have decided to release a photograph of the submarine given that it will shortly undertake harbour trials and subsequent trials on the high seas.
The nuclear submarine was launched at a simple ceremony with the traditional breaking of a coconut on its hull by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s wife Gursharan Kaur in July last year. It will be ready for induction into the Navy by 2011 after a series of exhaustive trials. Once inducted, the 6,000-tonne Arihant would be the vital third leg of India’s nuclear policy that hinges around the second strike theory — use of nuclear weapons only as a retaliatory measure against a first strike by the enemy.
quadbikeNavy chopper crashes into a river, pilot injured
A Chetak helicopter belonging to the Navy on Wednesday crashed into a river near Anakapally town, about 50 kilometres from here, injuring the pilot and three others onboard.
According to initial reports, the pilot and three trainee pilots were injured, DIG Visakhapatnam range Swomya Mishra said.
The mishap occurred when the chopper touched a high tension wire while flying low near Sarada river bridge, the DIG said.
All the injured have been admitted to a local government hospital, he said.
quadbikeRussia to transfer its Nerpa nuclear sub to India in autumn 2010
Russia will transfer its Nerpa nuclear-powered attack submarine for a 10 year-lease to India in the autumn, the head of the Russian Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation has said.
“The training of the crew has been concluded, most of the tests have been carried out — everything is almost at the finish line,” Mikhail Dmitriyev told journalists in New Delhi after a meeting of the Russian-Indian high-level supervisory committee on military and technical cooperation on Tuesday.
He said India would receive the K-152 Nerpa submarine in October or November 2010.The lease follows an agreement inked between New Delhi and Moscow in January 2004, with India funding part of the Nerpa’s construction at the Komsomolsk-on-Amur shipyard in the Russian Far East with an initial $650 million.
The Nerpa, the Akula-II class nuclear submarine, was scheduled to be inducted in the Indian Navy as INS Chakra by mid-2008 but technical problems delayed the process. After that, just as it began its sea trials in November 2008, 20 sailors and technical workers were killed on it due to a toxic gas leak when the automatic fire extinguishing system malfunctioned.
After repairs, which cost an estimated 1.9 billion rubles ($65 million), the Nerpa is now fully operational.
Akula II class vessels are considered the quietest and deadliest of all Russian nuclear-powered attack submarines.
Dmitriyev also expressed hope that Russia and India would sign a contract on the joint development of a new fifth-generation fighter within the next three months.
The sides earlier agreed to develop both a single-seat and a two-seat versions of the aircraft, which would be most likely based on Russia’s T-50 prototype fifth-generation fighter, by 2016.
Russia has been developing its fifth-generation fighter since the 1990s. The T-50 aircraft was designed by the Sukhoi design bureau and built at a plant in Komsomolsk-on-Amur, in Russia’s Far East.
Russian officials have already hailed the fighter as “a unique warplane” that combines the capabilities of an air superiority fighter and attack aircraft.
quadbikeIf NATO says neutral then does Turkey really have a chance against a Nuclear Armed Israel ?
I also think the superiority of the Turkish fleet is greatly exaggerated, IAF will be operating from closer to home and could easily destroy most of it.
And do Turkey really want to lose half of it air force, because when they get back home there are still the Greeks to deal with.
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