It is only in the bag once its signed but….

Who Dares wins

I blame those Iraqi people which accepted and even did support the Baath Party and Saddam. You can buy your stuff whereever you want, but before doing so you have to pay your debts too.

Err Iraq was not a democracy under Saddam, the Shia majority would have never voted for him. Saddam was sponsored by the West at one stage. Iraqis are not responsible for Saddam’s actions because they did not vote him in, but people of democratic countries are indirectly responsible for the actions of their leaders.

I am from a country, which was not involved in the last Iraq war, but it was still compelled to take some burden from it. I do not believe in your blame of the UN, which found a lot of material about chemical warfare and used before. What is your idea about the punishment of the Iraq for the war crimes committed till 1990?
Your problems with the USA are not mine and there are a lot of American members here to ask their opinion about that. Did the Iraq all to prevent the distrust after 1991 and by the that the end of sanctions and the war of 2003?!

Before a single jet will be sold to the Iraq, the Iraq has to be forced to pay his debts at first.

Iraq was pretty much neutralized after the first Gulf War, you could see that with the easy victory Americans had in the second Gulf War. The sanctions only served to make the situation of ordinary Iraqis worse, Saddam was still living in his palace.

I actually do not have any problems with U.S.A. I have a problem when people say they helped Iraqis etc. I asked you how ? By sponsoring a dictator when it suited them, and removing him when it did not ? So Iraq was invaded in 2003 because of American distrust 🙂 and you blame Iraq for it.

As for the jets I do not think the Americans would want to be there for ever. I am sure the Iraqis will look elsewhere if America don’t sell them. The Russians and the Chinese would be eager to help. 😉

The first Gulf War was indeed because of Iraq’s criminal idea. But know that the same allegation can be used against the Allies in the second gulf war. The current refugee situation for example is as a consequence of that.

So you do not have problems to repay your billions of debts at first. My taxpayers money too by the way. I am not intrested in the problems of the Iraq with the USA, Kuwait, Iran or Kurds. Most of your weaponary since the 60s were payed by credits. There are thousands of Iraqi refugees in my country fed by social welfare money from my taxes too. All that in mind I am not pleased to learn by Iraqi military, that they have no intrest to pay their debts at first but are intrested to order new military hardware, like Mirages, MiGs or F-16s to stay polite. There are millions of Iraqi outside your country, which are in need of a safe internal situation to return. 😡

http://209.85.129.132/search?q=cache:lzOe8oN9WkwJ:www.jubileeiraq.org/files/debt%2520to%2520development%2520-%2520MER%2520article.doc+Iraqi+debitor+conference&cd=7&hl=de&ct=clnk&gl=de

Mostly because of United States and its Allies invaded Iraq. You invade a country and then whine about the reconstruction costs, the refugees etc. being taken out of your taxpayer money. :rolleyes:

Actually in that article Sintra posted there was a delta canard design

This Navy Story Seems to be true regardless with more reports.

My Bet is on the Rafale in this one. 🙂

http://www.combataircraft.net/reports/rafale.php

:rolleyes:

And so it begins…..