EELightningThe only changes to the Typhoon’s airframe I can think of from the top of my head is the LERX and Conformal Fuel Tanks. Wether one can class CFTs’ as an actual airframe chance, I’m not too sure really. More of a add on. Other than those one or two things theres nothing else worth changing, its fine the way it is so not much need to change it.
EELightningAn interesting interview:
While attending the Paris air show in June, Second Line of Defense sat down with a senior Eurofighter executive to discuss Eurofighter in the Indian fighter competition. A special focus of our efforts has been upon the intersection between the future evolution of the Eurofighter and the Indian role in that future.
More here: http://www.sldinfo.com/?p=20614
EELightningEE :
No probs , I buy it 🙂
Btw EE :France is in , be sure . 😎
Cheers .
Then theres your ALARM – Ta-Daaaaa! 😉
For both aircraft, it could be one of the last (maybe?) weapons currently available or already thought of integrated…Who knows. Depending on requirments.
EELightningBut I would prefer the high flying Rafale to take care of the SAM with a French made “ALARM”.
France needs a proper weapon for the task and sooner rather than later .Cheers .
Why French made? Why not something from MBDA…
As I mentioned earlier, last I heard the Typhoon, at least, will have a SEAD/DEAD version of the Meteor – but it was a little while ago since I heard something of it. Was or is there anything that would indicate France could be interested in this verison of the Meteor?
EELightningThanks, Scorpion82. Very much liking the third image down from the top.
EELightningTyphoon can ‘t do SEAD/DEAD yet .
Last I heard about the Typhoon’s SEAD/DEAD capabilities was that it’ll have a SEAD/DEAD version of the Meteor…
Memory is sketchy.
MMRCA News:
ALLAHABAD: The induction of 126 Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) will enhance the capability of the Indian Air Force which will be procuring the 5th generation fighters by 2017 and by 2027. The country will then have 42 to 45 squadrons as compared to present 34 squadrons, said Chief of Air Staff, Indian Air force, Air Chief Marshal Pradeep Vasant Naik. He was speaking to the media here on Tuesday.
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Does anyone have any details about the Rafale & the Meteor trials?
And why the Rafale will have it in 2018(?)
Many thanks in advance.
EELightning@Tmor,
Well, just the same old saying of ‘agree to disagree’. Although I haven’t actually heard everything Dassault has said about the Eurofighter Consortium. I know that Eurofighter have said some things about Dassault and the Rafale but not much to worry about, but one must take note of that they’ve actually stated that the Rafale and the Typhoon are the only real multi-role aircraft to have been shortlisted for the MMRCA competition, which can be taken as a compliment in a way of which is quite un-usual during this time and at this stage. Most other competitors would they’re the “only one” or whatever
Anyway…
EELightningI don ‘t know if you ‘re serious but if you are , I am blushing 😮 Thank you .
I think he was being sarcastic…
EELightningYou are talking about people who make a living by designing, building and selling equipment which has only one purpose: “to kill and destroy anything that comes in the way of their client”.
You should NOT be schocked that those people are prepared to some unprofessional and disrespectful ‘impolite claims’.
I’m quite aware of that & I’m not shocked. At the end of the day, it just shows one can show some signs of worry when one makes ‘impolite claims’, it doesn’t make the potential buyer comfortable too, they want to see some confidence & to me, Dassault are showing signs of lacking this.
Anyway, its their problem I don’t really care.
EELightningWhat would happen if the IAF were to designate the MRCA winner as a nuclear platform and seek data from the manufacturer to allow it to integrate the nuclear bombs on existing weapon racks on the Typhoon/Rafale?
In the past, Jaguars were tested and found unsuitable for India’s atomic bombs (due to lower ground clearance) and Mirage-2000s were tested and operationalised as the nuclear delivery platforms. Neither manufacturer raised any issues in this matter (maybe they weren’t aware of it) but now that India is a declared nuclear power, it may well look to directly ask the manufacturers about the suitability of their fighter being a nuclear platform.
Since the Rafale is already the French nuclear platform along with the Mirage-2000N, we know its designed to be able to withstand electromagnetic impulses after a nuclear weapon detonates, but what about the Typhoon ? Which manufacturer may be more reliable in providing help and support for developing the MRCA as the IAF’s next nuclear strike platform?
I think France won’t mind if India integrated a nuclear weapon on their fighter.
The Eurofighter Consortium certainly won’t mind, too. They’ve stated that India will have the freedom to do whatever they wish with the Typhoon. I’m100% sure the Typhoon will be able to perform nuclear strikes. But what nuclear weapon would they, India, integrate? Is there a variant available and if so, what are the dimensions & weight of it?
EELightningThere is still a lot of misunderstanding about what Rafale is actually doing over Libya…
Like wise for what Typhoon is actually doing over Libya…
EELightningLook at this :
http://www.eurofighter.com/eurofighter-world/airshows-events/paris-air-show/le-bourget-blog.htmlConsidering that Rafale is doing its work just like planned, we’re talking about professional trolls.:D
To be fair, the French, apparantly, made some “impolite claims” over the Eurofighter programme during the Air Show. Now, making “claims” is one thing (they’ve all done it), making “impolite claims” is quite another.
I work as a guitar/amp/FX technician/sales person and I hear all sorts of weird & wonderful claims from various manufacturers, of guitars especially, claiming a particular model they produce is way superior to another make, theres always claims made when a representative comes and personally visits to see how things are going. Its the way it is & its their job to help & promote it at the end of the day & they generally show a hell of a lot of respect when taking a little sneaky look – with admiration – at the competition on display, its all respectful. However, when one makes ‘impolite claims’ its a different story, to say the least its just unprofessional & disrespectful.
As I say, all make claims to promote ones product but when they’re impolite ones, its just not nice & theres really no need for it especially if one believes their product is the better one on offer. It shows panic for me & it not something one should show when they’re trying to show something. I’d rather they be confident.
But at the end of the day, both have been doing a very good job in Libya and as aircraft, they’re both technically brilliant.
EELightningThank you! So, even though on some early drawings typhoon was portrayed carrying up to 10 missiles, realistically it won’t ever carry more than 8? Are enough hardpoints even wired for a 10 missile configuration?
No problems.
The potential to carry 10x A/A missiles is easily feasable, I forget the exact details but a close-up image was published a little while ago showing a Spanish Air Force Typhoon with a ‘double launch-rail’ placed next to the single launch rail positioned on the outer station. All three rails that was in the image was fitted with IRS-T if I recall correctly, Scorpion82 may have more details about the double launch-rail. So, if it came down to it the Typhoon could carry 10x A/A missiles. But at the moment 8x seems to be enough, however, we could see some other stations fitted with A/A missiles once the Conformal Fuel Tanks are integrated.
EELightningwhat sort of maximum a2a loadout would a raf typhoon have for a short range interception mission where a large number of incoming enemy planes would be detected and where typhoons would be numerically outmatched? does anyone have a precise weapons mix?
Well, the standard A/A load for RAF Typhoons is 4x ASRAAMs, 4x AMRAAM/Meteor, 1x 27mm cannon and 2x external drop tanks. They operate with this configuration over the UK, The Falklands, when deployed to various parts of Europe on QRA/CAPs’. They operate over Libya with this configuration, too. And also the Italian Air Force although with 4x IRS-T instead of 4x ASRAAM – of course both Air Forces with AMRAAM at the moment.
If it came to a short range interception they could operate with the same number of A/A missiles and just have 1x external drop tank on the centre station or with 2x ASRAAM, 4x AMRAAM/Meteor, 1x 27mm cannon & 1x external drop tank on the centre station.
Or…
2x ASRAAM, 6X AMRAAM/Meteor, 1x, 2x or even 3x external drop tanks if they felt the need to plan and stay up in the air longer. However, if it came to short range interception they’re more than likely to just operate with the first standard configuration I stated first.
Hope this helps.
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