do you have any logical argument why iam wrong

Yes. From the moment you said: “In my opinion Mig-31 appear to be a very good 6 gen fighter.”

As you can see, you claimed in your opinion. Your opinion doesn’t mean you’re factually correct. And you do realise that those figures such as 120,000ft+ and top speed were done with a stripped down aircraft, like the F-15 (Streak Eagle) was to “determine” it’s performance figures? In reality, the aircraft doesn’t approach any where near those, of course, they’re high indeed, but you’re kidding yourself if you truly believe so.

There’s no hard feelings on what ever South Korea do decide to finally select, personally I couldn’t give a Monkey’s Rectum-Ring – I’ve got more important, more interesting things, and again, more IMPORTANT things to be interested in and concerned about in life, it was always going to be a US type that was/is going to be chosen. But what is rather pitiful is the way the South Koreans have manipulated the contenders, of course there’s always haggling a better deal but the way they’ve gone, or are going about it is just simply a mess. They’ve moved the Goal Posts countless times, introducing, dropping, then re-introducing the requirements for the contenders.

The pricing process has also been an utter sh*t tip! They harped so much about being on or under budget, they made it clear that the contender on or under it would automatically be selected and confirmed as the “winner”, regardless of the aeroplane’s abilities & capabilities, which is fair dues. LM and EADS Cassidian failed to be on budget let alone under it, Boeing came the closest, and despite the bids having to been submitted and re-submitted to DAPA dozens of times they finally got one that was under budget, Boeing… Then what happened? The South Korean puppets (muppets more like) decided to decline and move the Goal Posts once again, this time claiming that certain aircraft capabilities were now a requirement(s)… again.

If they want a particular aircraft, fair game, get on with it and just purchase the thing. But don’t make a total balls-up of going through a process and wasting so many people’s time, as well as their own and their own credibility, or lack of.

I find it astonishing how certain members are ignoring the obvious, see above, and are going on like everything is fine!

Sry Eelightning, but do i tend to aggro ppl?

Not at all, no need to apologise too… However, I do find it odd that you take a pop at someone for calling a known journalist yet you seem rather fine with a known Troll (Sampaix/Gegene/Fonk/Dare2/DragonMaster/DragonFly and whatever other names he’s gone by) over on the Indian Defence Forum when he’s doing what he’s been banned for numerous times. I’m merely pointing it out, not looking to start a debate, but it’s rather odd…

Regarding this Kopp fella… It’s largely known he’s rather biased and somewhat, out of touch… He once stated that the RAF would be for better off with F-16s rather than Typhoons…

I’ll let that speak for itself, or for him for that matter.

All airframes crack, it is just a question of where/when/how. Remember that a crack is not the same thing as a structural failure. Planes fly with cracks all over the world, every day.

Takes a mental note:*

‘Do Not Fly with Hopsalot’s Airline nor rely on his Air Force!’

Not a very good response, I’m afraid.

I realised that soon afterwards, it was more about summing something up rather than being a practicality. I should have added, ‘With significant modifications to HMS Ocean.’ as JDS Izumo would need also, Ski Jump etc.

BTW Haven’t heard from you in a while. So, good to see you online……even if your giving me a hard time.;)

No harm intended.

Very busy touring in the US and other places, will be back there for the second leg soon, this month.

oh, not to change the subject but considering you brought up the Flying Brick part. I think these cross-sections dispel that.

I was thinking more about flight performance of the ‘B’ variant, which isn’t that impressive to say the least – limited G for a start, not actual cross section. But, that’s another story not for this thread.

F-35B….. Blah!

I reckon we’ve got your point with regards to this Carrier might one day operate the F-35B, Scooter. Bringing it up in just about every post you’ve posted so far on this thread doesn’t necessarily mean it’s going to be a reality.

HMS Ocean could in theory, like JDS Izumo, operate with the F-35B but that ain’t never going to happen.

It’d be nice to read and learn about something other than the ‘Flying Brick’ sometime!

That’s a nice racist comment. This is a troll thread and the hypocrites supporting it expect only anti-Chinese comments to be accepted?

American’s make utter cr*p cars, European ones are by far more better. Does that make me Anti-American? No! Same applies to anywhere else! Get a grip.

People that show the Racist card are generally out of ideas, and touch. You’re one of them!