EELightningFulfilling the State Defence Order for the year 2012, aviation major Sukhoi has completed delivery of Su-34 frontline bombers and Su-35S Flanker-E multirole fighters to the Russian Air Force.
The company delivered five Su-34 frontline bombers to the Defence Ministry on December 28, 2012, in addition to five more supplied earlier on December 25.
The Russian Defence Ministry has placed an order for a total of 124 Su-34s to be delivered to the Air Force by 2020.
The company also delivered six Su-35S production multi-functional fighters to the Air Force on Dec 28.
The Su-35S is a single-seat, twin engined super-manoeuvrable multirole fighter of 4++ generation. An upgraded variant of the Su-35 fighter, it employs technologies of the fifth generation that assure its superiority over similar class fighters.
Sukhoi has been contracted to supply a total of 48 Su-35S fighters to the Defense Ministry by 2015.
http://www.brahmand.com/news/Sukhoi-delivers-Su-34-bombers-Su-35S-fighters-to-Russia/10594/1/17.html
I’m sure they’re easy to add up.
EELightning😀 Do you sing with the gas mask on.
Aaaaah, inspiration by Slipknot maybe? 🙂
I can’t play a musical instrument at all and really envy anyone who can.
You should get yourself one, acoustic or a starter pack that comes with Guitar, little amp etc – doesn’t need to be something special or will make a hole in your wallet. You don’t have to know how to play. If you pick one up in the morning and expecting to play ‘The Number of the Beast’ by the evening you’ll get bored of it really quickly… the trick is to experiment, don’t “try” to learn, just mess about with it, get a pedal or two and find out what different sounds you can create. Honestly, thats the best way, much more fun. 😉
EELightning😀 Do you sing with the gas mask on.
Aaaaah, inspiration by Slipknot maybe? 🙂
I can’t play a musical instrument at all and really envy anyone who can.
You should get yourself one, acoustic or a starter pack that comes with Guitar, little amp etc – doesn’t need to be something special or will make a hole in your wallet. You don’t have to know how to play. If you pick one up in the morning and expecting to play ‘The Number of the Beast’ by the evening you’ll get bored of it really quickly… the trick is to experiment, don’t “try” to learn, just mess about with it, get a pedal or two and find out what different sounds you can create. Honestly, thats the best way, much more fun. 😉
EELightningEE, I hope it pans out for your better half. I was made redundant a few times in my 25yr aviation career, and its no fun. My late Uncle rode motorbikes throughout his adult life. Somewhere in the ‘family archives’ is a picy of yours truly astride his BSA of the time, prior to that, my mother tells me that he owned a bike called a Matchless, and another called an Ariel, she thinks that what they was called anyway. So it was his ‘fault’ that I got hooked on motorbikes.
Glad you’ve decided to go for the guitar, ‘It’s got to be done’ as they say;) And I’m a 54yr old sayin it!
Neil.
Thank you. I’m sure it will. We have a couple of mates that work in Forbidden Planet just up near where I work that say she could work, she loves HMV though so she’s going to wait a little longer, but if she gets paid off she’s got a high chance of getting within the Planet shop, which is cool cause she loves that place too. But yeah, its not pleasant especially if you love the job you’re in, I can only imagine what it’d be like losing a job, or career I should say, such you were in. I’d be devastated if I lost my Guitar Technician job.
I’m glad too. We’re both after the same model which is good. Its just a matter of looking into it. It has a choice for a 33″ neck. 33″ for a six string Guitar, would you believe that. My 8 string is slightly over 27″, but the bridge goes way back.
Can’t beat old British bikes though, when I was younger I tried getting a BSA Bantem. Came across a few Ariels, Matchless’, Norton’s, Vincents, Royal Enfields and of course Triumphs, the prices though… even for clapped out ones. Lovely machines though. Seen some beautys at the Birmingham NEC a couple of years ago.
Very nice rig you have there, Al. Can never go wrong with Ashdown. Very rare we get them in store because they get out so quick, really sought after these are. Also very underrated too I might add.
EELightningEE, I hope it pans out for your better half. I was made redundant a few times in my 25yr aviation career, and its no fun. My late Uncle rode motorbikes throughout his adult life. Somewhere in the ‘family archives’ is a picy of yours truly astride his BSA of the time, prior to that, my mother tells me that he owned a bike called a Matchless, and another called an Ariel, she thinks that what they was called anyway. So it was his ‘fault’ that I got hooked on motorbikes.
Glad you’ve decided to go for the guitar, ‘It’s got to be done’ as they say;) And I’m a 54yr old sayin it!
Neil.
Thank you. I’m sure it will. We have a couple of mates that work in Forbidden Planet just up near where I work that say she could work, she loves HMV though so she’s going to wait a little longer, but if she gets paid off she’s got a high chance of getting within the Planet shop, which is cool cause she loves that place too. But yeah, its not pleasant especially if you love the job you’re in, I can only imagine what it’d be like losing a job, or career I should say, such you were in. I’d be devastated if I lost my Guitar Technician job.
I’m glad too. We’re both after the same model which is good. Its just a matter of looking into it. It has a choice for a 33″ neck. 33″ for a six string Guitar, would you believe that. My 8 string is slightly over 27″, but the bridge goes way back.
Can’t beat old British bikes though, when I was younger I tried getting a BSA Bantem. Came across a few Ariels, Matchless’, Norton’s, Vincents, Royal Enfields and of course Triumphs, the prices though… even for clapped out ones. Lovely machines though. Seen some beautys at the Birmingham NEC a couple of years ago.
Very nice rig you have there, Al. Can never go wrong with Ashdown. Very rare we get them in store because they get out so quick, really sought after these are. Also very underrated too I might add.
EELightning@Slowman,
Boeing : 75~80% license production, with exception of radar, antenna, and a few others.
Still, some 10-15%, that is quite a bit less than 90% (or over) especially with the exception of the radar and “a few other things”. And thats before what benefits Japan would have got if they had joined the Eurofighter consortium.
“The source also said other jets, Boeing’s F-15 and EADS’ Eurofighter, will have a price range of KRW 10-11 trillion as well.”
It doesn’t state “respectively” at the end, so how come you stated earlier that Boeing’s bid is less than EADS/CASA’s? That just suggests that both are somewhere in the middle of KRW 10-11 trillion.
EELightningThe wrong one. /shrug
Before the selection was announced I had argued that Typhoon was much better placed to secure the contract than it was generally credited with. As it turns out, I underestimated Japan’s subservience to the United States — rather than presenting an opportunity to demonstrate independence from that nation, rather the program was seen as an opportunity to apologise to the United States for ripples previous caused in the relationship by the ultimately unsuccessful business regarding Okinawa.
Indeed. I was one of those, though I did have a little skeptism in the back of my mind I believed this was one of Typhoon’s better chances of getting orders. Of course, I would love to see Typhoon in Japanese service but on the flip-side its a bit more personal. Having been to Japan a number of times I’ve totally fell for the country and having to been deeply upset with the recent number of natural disasters to hit the country such as that terrible earthquake which resulted in the catastrophic damage to their nuclear facilities, and elsewhere of course, just before the F-X decision was anounced, it very much renewed my support for BAE Systems’ bid, not so much for the Typhoon itself but for the industrial benefits it came with, and something of a moral boost the country’s industrial infrastructure needed at the time – maybe not significant, but its something they could’ve gained from. They didn’t get this with Lockheed Martin and they sure as hell wouldn’t have from Boeing.
Too polite to say No, or even Yes maybe. What a shame.
EELightningJapan’s democracy isn’t mature and strong enough that the internal politics can override any pressure from the US.
Still, during the F-X “competition” (IIRC) Boeing had the cheapest product with the Super Hornet though Boeing were quite unwilling regarding ToT, industrial benefits and so on. BAE Systems’ price for the Typhoon was slightly higher than that of the Super Hornet but offered the best ToT and industrial benefits of the three contenders by a huge margin, well over 90% in fact and with an opportunity to join as a full partner within Eurofighter GmbH, as well as to produce the Typhoon as a licenced product in Japan too I believe. Lockheed Martin’s bid was, and still is, unattractive. The more expensive option of the three contenders, very little proven, much less mature, an unknown situation with the aircraft’s price and offered a much, much lower percentage in ToT and in industrial benefits…
… still, which one did Japan select again. :rolleyes:
Boeing : $9.4 billion
CASA : $10.3 billion
Lockheed : $14.1 billion
How about a reliable source quoting an official response?
EELightningThe often shown photograph of Replica shows it on top of a pole used for RCS testing. From that photo, I infer the UK has the ability to perform whole-vehicle RCS measurements.
I mentioned this to Slowman over on Eurofighter Starstreak, or InternationalPirate as he’s known over there, after stating the same claim. He’s either ignored what I said or didn’t notice my reply… I guess the former.
@Bluewings,
Again , 4.5 gen and 5th gen fighters seems to integrate as much hardware they can into the airframe and soon we ‘ll see newer conformal arrays .
Conformal side arrays you mean? If so, it’ll be a long time before we’ll see anything like those. Conformal side arrays have defeated much greater minds than ours. What you want is a Repositioner.
EELightningWell , if a F-16 is a 4th generation fighter , the F-22 a 5th generation fighter , where do you place Rafale/Typhoon ? .
I don’t. Just like to know who says the Rafale (and why not Typhoon too) is 4.5 Gen. Do Dassault say it’s 4.5 Gen?
EELightningMSR777, very sorry to hear about what happened, though I’m glad you’re on the road to recovery. 🙂
Like wise, I’ve always fancied finding an old motorbike and doing it up, the Yamaha RD125 looks a rather nice bit of kit, they have that retro-racey look that I’ve always admired, much more than todays road bikes designed by a wind tunnel regarding shape. kinda lack that human element of bikes in the early 90’s to way back when. I’ve always had a soft spot for Triumphs though and always wanted to do one up like Lincoln with the Tiger Cub. Always fancied getting hold of a 1965 Bonneville, my all time favourite motorcycle…
… though not yet. Theres always that stigma that comes with being a mere human being, you only live once, achieve as much as you can as soon as you can sorta saying. I’m 31 years of age, really don’t feel this age, still feel much younger. Which makes me come to a conclusion… you’re as old as you feel you are, what you get on your cheesy birthday badge is just a number. The Devil is just gunna have to wait! lol
Go and get yourself a Tiger Cob, Lincoln. From what I’ve heard about them, you’d love it!
The sweetheart has actually fell for this Guitar, she even suggested to go halfers on the costs, so this what we’re going to do. However, it won’t be yet. She currently works at HMV and as I’m sure many of you are aware, theres a lot of people that are going to get paid off with over 100 stores closing in the UK. So we have to wait and see what happens on her work front.
EELightningMSR777, very sorry to hear about what happened, though I’m glad you’re on the road to recovery. 🙂
Like wise, I’ve always fancied finding an old motorbike and doing it up, the Yamaha RD125 looks a rather nice bit of kit, they have that retro-racey look that I’ve always admired, much more than todays road bikes designed by a wind tunnel regarding shape. kinda lack that human element of bikes in the early 90’s to way back when. I’ve always had a soft spot for Triumphs though and always wanted to do one up like Lincoln with the Tiger Cub. Always fancied getting hold of a 1965 Bonneville, my all time favourite motorcycle…
… though not yet. Theres always that stigma that comes with being a mere human being, you only live once, achieve as much as you can as soon as you can sorta saying. I’m 31 years of age, really don’t feel this age, still feel much younger. Which makes me come to a conclusion… you’re as old as you feel you are, what you get on your cheesy birthday badge is just a number. The Devil is just gunna have to wait! lol
Go and get yourself a Tiger Cob, Lincoln. From what I’ve heard about them, you’d love it!
The sweetheart has actually fell for this Guitar, she even suggested to go halfers on the costs, so this what we’re going to do. However, it won’t be yet. She currently works at HMV and as I’m sure many of you are aware, theres a lot of people that are going to get paid off with over 100 stores closing in the UK. So we have to wait and see what happens on her work front.
EELightning…you begin to understand what is a 4th gen aircraft and what is a 4.5 gen aircraft . 😎
Personally, I believe this “Generation” stuff to be utter marketing cr@p. But I’m curious, who says Rafale is 4.5 Gen?
EELightningLincoln7, that is true, very true. I just turned 31 over a week ago so I suppose I could make it a late birthday gift to myself, sounds canny. 😀 I got a custom made 8 string Ibanez from Japan (or seen the early beginnings of it there and got shipped here I should say) last year (very, very and extremely lucky to get it with a lot of help from someone I work with that has strong links with Ibanez) and it kinda changed my mind not to get anything which is difficult to justify…
… However, this one I’m after is very different. Its a Standard Series One Baritone built by Electrical Guitar Company in the US, the whole thing is solid Aluminium, body, neck, head, the lot. Nice but strange looking thing, only major downside I’ve never even seen one in person let alone played one so its a bit of a gamble, however I’ve been told they’re fantastic especially if you’re into drop tunings and the most evil sounds. After a bit of thinking about the price, it ain’t that bad especially considering what its made of and it being made to order… unlike most Gibsons which are way over priced in general.
The sweetheart loves the look of it though…
Scott Marlee, a lot of these Argos ones ain’t bad at all especially if you just like to sit down and mess away with it. They’re great fun to upgrade with different pickups & what have you. 🙂
EELightningLincoln7, that is true, very true. I just turned 31 over a week ago so I suppose I could make it a late birthday gift to myself, sounds canny. 😀 I got a custom made 8 string Ibanez from Japan (or seen the early beginnings of it there and got shipped here I should say) last year (very, very and extremely lucky to get it with a lot of help from someone I work with that has strong links with Ibanez) and it kinda changed my mind not to get anything which is difficult to justify…
… However, this one I’m after is very different. Its a Standard Series One Baritone built by Electrical Guitar Company in the US, the whole thing is solid Aluminium, body, neck, head, the lot. Nice but strange looking thing, only major downside I’ve never even seen one in person let alone played one so its a bit of a gamble, however I’ve been told they’re fantastic especially if you’re into drop tunings and the most evil sounds. After a bit of thinking about the price, it ain’t that bad especially considering what its made of and it being made to order… unlike most Gibsons which are way over priced in general.
The sweetheart loves the look of it though…
Scott Marlee, a lot of these Argos ones ain’t bad at all especially if you just like to sit down and mess away with it. They’re great fun to upgrade with different pickups & what have you. 🙂
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