Twin tails does improve lateral stability in flight I have read, and if you have tail tanks, you have that little bit of extra fuel too. The obvious disadvantage would an increase in weight, but from what I have seen so far every twin tailed aircraft is, or has also been twin-engined, and the additional power would help balance out the thrust-to-weight ratio. The F-35 is an exception of course, but the F-135 engine is a VERY powerful piece.

I have never seen anything MODERN with THREE tail fins! Or my memory is going….

I am sure someone could probably dig up some oddity from somewhere and surprise me. 🙂

oh, ok. Modified fiji class, ex-de Ruyter?

Modified FIJI-class.

http://www.btinternet.com/~clive.fennessy/fen23.html

Apparently India bought one of these ex-RN cruisers as well and it served until it was scrapped in 1986.

Most likely it would be the AA-10 Alamo. The Ukrainians appear to be making their own on this, and China bought a lot of their stock from the Ukraine

AA-10 makes a lot more sense!

The P-15A will definately carry the Grizzly , No point in Carrying the SA-N-7 as in delhi class

Austin, I would agree, and I would expect that especially since the TALWAR has it already. BUT, like I said, the article has to be wrong. The 9M38M1 is NOT the new ****l-1, but the original ****l. The new missile, or the SA-N-12 (land based SA-17) GRIZZLY uses the improved 9M317 missile.

From the article:

“The new suite for P-15A DDG will comprise four 12 misssile SUB-DECK CELLULAR LAUNCHERS, with two launchers each being mounted fore and aft of the vessel , The 9M38M1 Cashmere SAM, is armed with 70kg HE warhead, has max speed of Mach-3(830 m/s) and can manoeure up to 20g, The missile can handle airborne targets travelling at 420 to 830 m/s, The reaction time is 16-19 seconds and kill percentage is 81 to 96 precent for a two missile salvo, Engagement range against Aircraft are 3 to 32 Km with altitudes from 15 metres to 15 Km, Ranges against incoming ASCM are 3.5 km to 12 km with altitudes from 10 metres to 10km.”

I think they have confused this SAM info with the original P15; the DELHI class. If they are going to use the GRIZZLY, then they should be stating the correct Russian industrial code for the missile.

Check here for more on Russian missile designations:
http://www.designation-systems.net/non-us/soviet.html#_Listings_SA

SOC from the AFM forum helped compile the tables on this site.

Great shots! One of the younger TICOs, at just 13 years old in service.

Her Baseline 3 sisters:

USS Princeton (CG 59)
USS Normandy (CG 60)
USS Monterey (CG 61)
USS Chancellorsville (CG 62)
USS Cowpens (CG 63)

The Baseline 3 mods:

Baseline 3 includes the AN/SPY-1B radar and AN/UYQ-21 consoles. The lighter SPY-1B radar, with improved radiating characteristics, was substituted for SPY-1A, and new computers (UYK-43 and UYK-44 in place of UYK-7) are employed. CG 59 was the Navy’s first cruiser equipped with the AN/SPY-1B radar system, which provided a significant improvement in the detection capabilities of the AEGIS Weapons System. This radar system incorporates significant advances over earlier radars, particularly in its resistance to enemy Electronic Countermeasures (ECM). With the SPY-1B radar and the ship’s MK 99 Fire Control System, the ship can guide its Standard Missile to intercept hostile aircraft and missiles at extended ranges. In 1996, CG 61 became the first of this group to be upgraded with the SPY-1D(V) radar and received a combat system upgrade including all-new combat system computers, consoles, and displays. The upgrade will permit future installation of such planned upgrades as Cooperative Engagement Capability, Theater Ballistic Missile Defense capability, and new versions of the Standard missile.

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Hey there is some confusion here glen , The ****ill-1 is basicly the SA-N-17 Grizzly or Navalised version of BUK-M2 with a range of 45 Km the Talwar do carry the ****il-1 , the Delhi class carries the older SA-N-7 Gadfly, which has a max range of 35 Km , so both the Talwar and P-15A carries the modernised SAM , but it seems that For VLS system the range has been reduced some what by 35 Km max range all things being equal , May be down the line Delhi will get the upgraded sam , ie SA-N-17 Grizzly , The Single Arm launcher on Talwar fires the Grizzly with a Max range of 45 Km as far as Kashtan-M yes the missile is strored below deck and can be autoloaded after it has fired all it SAM.The Aster -15/30 will see it way in the next batch of P-17A as the contract has already been signed with MBDA as reported earlier .

I think the article is in error then. The 9M38M1 (as stated in the article) missile is the SA-11 GADFLY, and the navalised version is the SA-N-7. The SA-17 GRIZZLY uses the new 9M317 (or possibly the 9M38M2, it’s unclear) missile with a small increase in range. The new Chinese Type 52B DDGs are fitted with it.

An article from here states clearly that the TALWAR has 9M317. I thought it was odd at first, becasue I thought the TALWAR only had the old SA-N-7.

Again, I think the article is wrong.

Carlo wont be happy to see this

Who cares??

BTW does the Kashtan-M feature automatic reloads or someone
has to load the sa-13s manually (hard to imagine that in rough conditions)

The Khastan-M still uses the SA-N-11, or the navalised version of the SA-19 GRISOM.

will possess enhanced stealth features and land attack capabilities .Russia’s Severnoye Project Design Bureau (SPKB) has acted as consultant for the Naval Design Bureau.

I can’t WAIT to see the design! Guessing it will resemble the P17 more than the original DELHI class.