SK can team up with boeing and develop a NG F-15 varient for the K series , i’d add the AESA as it is allready developed and paid for , Look to improve upon the F-100 by adding some tech from the F-119 research programs , an AVEN nozzle , look to incorporate some newer more advanced materials to reduce weight aswell . If i was them i wont even go for the F-35 till atleast 2020 and wait for prices to stabelize and production chinks to be sorted out , i’d keep on upgrading the F-15K and if i want to do R and D and do something fancy go for a tailess TVC enabled NG version of the aircraft and buy some more and keep my older aircraft flying and induct some F-50’s into the force !!
Does the F-15 has potential to be made better than the Eurofighter, Super Hornet and Gripen in terms of stealthiness?
Even if it’s technically doable, it must be affordable to have any chance of adoption.
Did you just make that up, or is there really a tailless F-15 on the drawing board at boeing? Pleasepleaseplease tell me!!:eek:
They’ve been offering the Super Hornet left and right, from what I’ve seen…
Why would I make that up?
Here’s what Boeing actually showed in the seminar in Seoul on June 26th.
Sunho
It’ll be interesting to see if this thing can get into hardware really, really fast. If so, it could be a serious threat to the JSF program internationally as it won’t be a design constrained by either US requirements, US export restrictions, or having to have a VTOL variant. I wonder if BAE had anything to do with this…
Only four western aerospace companies have submitted full proposals. BAE is not among them.
The four western companies are Saab, Boeing, EADS and Lockheed Martin.
Saab: a new design plus surplus Gripens. Propose the Gripen NG as a cheaper, low-risk option.
Boeing: a tailless F-15 plus a clean-sheet new design, which will be too expensive to pursue. What they really want is to sell more F-15s.
EADS: “just buy the Eurofighter and join our UCAV program.”
Lockheed Martin: “just buy the F-35, then we’ll help you on something else.”
I was under the impression that the KFX program was pretty much dead in the water at this point.
Advanced Gripen, maybe? There’s talk of a heavily modified LO Gripen concept in the works, after all. Here’s hoping this comes to fruition; I always liked SAAB designs.
EDIT: Yeah, this thing.
Heres a snippet of info by matej (though its on ATS, so…) Link.
The KFX is almost dead, but there is also possibility that it may linger on as a research project without building anything.
There have been numerous reports that the Koreans have run into difficulty trouble-shooting the F-15/F110 combination. They get no help from the US Air Force when they run into any kind of fault codes or anomalies – since the US doesn’t fly this engine-airframe combination.
Could you please point me to any of those reports?
Cheers,
Sunho
Add Australian F-111Cs armed with four AGM-84 Harpoons.
Different war, completely different circumstances. The traffic separation principle was not appropriate to the limited war of 1982, & was not applied. The numbers of aircraft were much smaller, were operating in a restricted area, and the degree of fratricide considered acceptable in an all-out war in Europe was not acceptable to the Israelis.
Any documentary evidence to back it up? I would be happy to read it.
Depends on circumstances. IIRC in the event of war with the Warsaw Pact NATO planned to use traffic separation systems in central Europe, which basically meant that anything heading West that wasn’t on the right flight path should be treated as a target. N. Vietnamese aircraft didn’t have any BVR missiles AFAIK, but in their operating environment would almost always have been able to use them rather freely. If a small air force – the sort operating small numbers of cheap lightweight fighters – was fighting a war, it could well be that a pilot would usually know well enough where his comrades were that he wouldn’t need any identification.
Well, the same traffic separation principle must have been applied to the Lebanon War in 1982, but in most cases the Israeli F-15s didn’t fire their AIM-7Fs until visual identification was made. Against high-flying Syrian MiG-25s, they did shoot AIM-7Fs at them beyond visual range.
Below is from page 42 of “Israeli F-15 Eagle Units in combat” by Shlomo Aloni.
“The greatest problem facing my (F-15 pilot Offer Lapidot) squadron during the war was the correct identification of aircraft that we encountered north of the border. The informal order that we obeyed within the unit was that no one was to open fire without first achieving a positive identification of the target. This was just as well, for later in the war I intercepted a jet and the GCU cleared me to fire an AAM, but I chose not launch the missile. This was a wise move, as it turned out that my “target” was an IDF/AF aircraft!”
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Sunho
Whatever BVR missile you have, you must accompany it with reliable identification capability.
If not, the rules of engagement would almost certainly force you to visually identify your target before shooting at it, rendering the BVR missile to a ‘within visual range’ one.
Cheers,
Sunho
Just a small nitpick – the official designation of the fighter-attacker version of the T-50 trainer is “FA-50” not F/A-50.
Cheers,
Sunho
Does anyone know what is the status of OV-10 and Mk-53 replacement of Indonesian Air Force?
Below is part of the story I wrote for AW&ST last month.
Aerospace Business
Korea Aerospace Focuses KT-1 on Counter-Insurgency Market
Aviation Week & Space Technology
01/21/2008 , page 42Sunho Beck
Seoul… Indonesia is once again high on the list of prospective customers, this time for the KA-1, an armed forward-air-control version of the KT-1 formerly called KO-1. Jakarta wants to replace its Rockwell OV-10F Bronco counterinsurgency aircraft, introduced in 1976, with aircraft immune to Western arms embargoes, local media say. The Indonesian air force aims to choose either the KA-1 or the Super Tucano by 2009, although the PT6A engine seems to make both vulnerable to Western arms export controls. If selected, the KA-1 could be assembled by Dirgantara Indonesia with some parts made in the country.
Cheers,
Sunho
Hi.
If I post such a photo I will surely arrest because the photo of Python-4 is highly classify. I still don’t know when they will release those photo.
Sorry, mate. 🙂
Hi Analayo,
I didn’t know it was that sensitive because I already saw a low-resolution photo of a Thai F-5E with Python IV on Air Forces Monthly, probably in a 2006 issue. Of course I don’t want to put you in trouble. 🙂
BTW, wouldn’t it be cheaper for Thailand to join the Brazilian F-5BR program? The Brazilians plan to upgrade their F-5Es to fire South African A-Darter and possibly a new BVR missile South Africa may propose for joint development.
Cheers,
Sunho
Hi Analayo,
Do you have any picture of the RTAF F-5E armed with Python IV?
I do have one picture that shows Python III, but not Python IV.
I’d greatly appreciate if you could post some pictures here, if any.
Thanks in advance,
Sunho
Actually, the shipbuilding industry in the Netherlands was much much older and more established than the aerospace industry. Naval electronics from the Netherlands also pre-dates WW2: Thales-NL/Hollandse Signaal Apparaten all stem from Hazemeyer, a Dutch Siemens subsidiary, which already built radar gun controls in the 1930s. Prior to World War II, this firm developed a very advanced triaxial mounting together with a tachymetric control system.
Thanks for your input.
But are you sure the Dutch developed “radar” gun controls in the 1930s?
AFAIK the first Dutch naval radars were LW01 and DA01 for the Dutch navy’s Friesland- and Holland-class destroyers built in the 1950’s.
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Sunho
Ships were dispresed precisely to prevent a single nuclear initiation from taking out the whole CVBG. That was the reason behind Link 11 using HF radio.
In the Exercise Sunrise in 1948 (sixty years ago!), the Royal Navy’s Home Fleet staged a mock attack against a ‘Russian’ naval base at Plymouth and ‘Russian’ air bases in Devon and Cornwall. The idea was to try out the feasibility of attacking Russian bases in Kola Peninsula defended by nuclear bombers.
The Home Fleet kept its destroyers at least three miles apart each other and main units including three aircraft carriers 4.5 miles apart, a disposition unthinkable in the WW2. RAF Lancaster and Lincoln bombers could not find the elusive fleet for days and when a Coastal Command Lancaster finally located the fleet and simulated a nuclear bomb drop, the nearest ship was a destroyer 4,500 yards away. The fleet was deemed to get away relatively unharmed.
Cheers,
Sunho