Sounds good, apologies for the misunderstanding.
British rock is much better than French rock though, and will be around much longer than Rafale, so its ok.
Alright, let’s call it peace. You gotta understand, after years of forum trolls (not necessarily here) making stupid, ignorant remarks when it comes to otherwise sane discussion of Russian equipment, I am fast to call troll.
It’s like if I came into a Royal Navy thread, and every time Astute was mentioned, said something to the effect of “lol, hope it doesn’t hit a rock or lose a crewmember this time!”.
Levsha:
Sounds like its for Su-33s alone, also mentioned 100 landings, and 20 mock-battles/interceptions.
Also I’ve been meaning to ask, whats with the name? Levsha, as in Russian, or something else?
So please, provide evidence that it is limping in the clips? Or that every time it went into dock post long-cruise it required “serious maintenance”, not just routine service. No? Good, try trolling harder next time.
Nonsense aside;
http://flot.com/news/navy/?ELEMENT_ID=103780
During the ceremony mentioned before (Golovko, etc) Vistosky declared that the technical specifications of the future destroyer will be completed this year. In August 2011, Visotsky said in 2012 construction of the ship would start. President of United Shipbuilding Corporation said that the new ocean going destroyer would be completed in 2016.
Stupid posts are a specialty of yours, when it comes to anything Russian, eh?
EDIT:
Names for first two Mistrals are “Vladivostok’ and “Sevastopol”.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDo_HWRSYZc
Excellent footage of the Kunetsov returning home, including clips of its massive missile defense battery, and some Su-33 training.
http://tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/content/201202012307-tx3a.htm
Video of the Golovko and Gremyshy being laid down. Also you can see the Kasatonov, and another 20380 in the clip.
Highly doubt a block 52 would see the MKI first. It’s tiny radar has nothing like the range of today’s Bars, don’t think the smaller RCS compensates enough for that. If the F-16 has any sort of usefull load+fuel, the RCS figure won’t be too impressive anymore.
Slippery or not its awfully outmatched.
Short legs are irrelevant in the NK scenario.
I think you are buying into the ‘early MIG-29 avionics were worthless!” thing a little too much. India found them clearly superior to Mirage 2000, specifically in radar. I’ll take the MiG over the Phantom hands down.
Of course, in an actual scenario, none of this will matter much.
Really, I think it is quite too much for the Sk F-5 and F-4s! 😉
The bigger the better. :p
An interesting article about An-70 (Trident, get in here):
http://www.lenta.ru/news/2012/02/01/an70/
-According to Ukranian defense officials, one An-70 costs 67 million dollars.
-Price is general and can certainly change, as the program is not complete yet.
-Ukranian MOD intends to pay 43 million USD for the program in 2012. Earlier it was reported that before 2013 Russia would contribute 85 million USD to the project, and Ukraine, 60 million USD.
-According to a Russian VVS official, military trials of the An-70 may start this year, and based on these trials the decision to serially purchase the aircraft may be made.
-In the end of April, Surdykov announced the VVS intends to buy 60 An-70s.
-Ukranian MOD announced it intends to purchase 3 of these planes.
-In July of last year, the Russian MOD bought the first An-70, being built at the Kiev plant Aviakvant. The contract was signed so that Ukraine could begin construction on another such plane. In the future, production is planned to be moved to Russia. Presumably such production would start in 2014.
Lot’s of conflicting information about the state of An-70 program, but one thing is clear, Russian MOD is invested in the program. According to Antonov they are keeping the program alive at this point.
Awesome photo Deino. That MiG-29 looks sharp!
http://lenta.ru/news/2012/02/01/mistral/
The first French barge– Mistral has been laid down for Russia.
You missed out the Mig-29K:)
In 5-10 years from now, IAF will be that much stronger just in sheer numbers.
Then you can multiple with the phalcons A50I systems, etc as well.It will not even be a fair game.
Well he said IAF, not the Navy. MiG-29K squadrons are not AF, IIRC.
Pakistanis would be operating in friendly IADS thus being in a better position, theoretically.
Yes, but I’m not sure how that explains ppp’s mystical logic at how the PAF will “better” the more capable IAF aircraft. Note I never actually said anything about relative capability (though it is obvious who is favored), but his argument is devoid of any logic.
Certainly Pakistani IADS can make the job for Indian strike aircraft more difficult, but then again we can bring in other Indian assets into the equation. Either war, has little to do with a thread concerned specifically with aircraft ability vis-a-vis to each other.
That’s because you’re looking at numbers on paper rather than looking at how real wars (and fights in general) tend to pan out. Equipment is important, but it doesn’t tell the whole story. What plane is better isn’t going to make much of a difference in a war between India and Pakistan. Hopefully we won’t have to see how things work out in reality, it’s never pretty. The other reason you may not follow the logic of course is that it you don’t want to hear anything that you don’t like, shocking 😎
Not sure what you are babbling about, to be frank. Or how Pakistani “desperation” will cause them to make up a balance with the Indians.
Obviously other assets come to play in war (love to hear the “desperation” one though) but it does nothing to negate a huge equipment deficiency.
But yeah, lets look how real wars pan out, in what previous war between Pakistan and India did the PAF better the IAF?