Just wondering if anyone has seen a list of D H Herons around on the net? Seem to remember having been on such a website, although it could very well have been about Dove/Devons. Just trying to make sure how many Herons in various guises still fly.
T J
Chris Wagstaff maintains a superb website devoted to all De Havilland multi engined transport – see his census data on the Heron for survivors:
http://www.chris.wagstaff.btinternet.co.uk/
Regards
Tim
The revised volumes (comprising 204 pages plus detailed index) were published over a number of years. I have the full 4 volume set + separate index and the dates of issue were 1962 Vol 1, !963 Vol 2, 1964 Vol 3, 1966 Vol 4 and (undated) Log Index. They have no ISBN printed on them.
I built my set up by obtaining individual volumes and trading spares – full sets rarely come on the market but you can be lucky! The type of detail such as price and condition of individual aircraft at the Kemble sale aircraft isn’t covered as the logs relate more to origins of each airframe, their use and disposal . Mention is made of disposals not only from Kemble but later from Cosford and Aston Down. The listings include foreign registered impressed aircraft.
Aeroplane Spotter did an article on the major Kemble sale at the time (sorry my full set is inaccessible right now so can’t tell you the issue number). I’ve also seen an article in Aeroplane or Flight of the era.
Tim
Hi Jesper,
Welcome to the forum. Nice to know we have a Dane on board. I was over in your lovely country a few weeks back and visited a few aircraft museums. This included the magnificent caste as Egeskov (pure coincidence of course that they have some aircraft in their museum) and the excellent technical / aviation museum up at Helsingor. I was disappointed to find that the beautiful red Dragon Rapide that they used to have on display was not present. Do you know where it is now – has it been put in storage?
Tim
If you P.M. me with your postal address I can photocopy one for you – my flatbed scanner is duff so can’t send electronically.
I don’t claim to be an expert in the Royal Ceylon Air Force, but I’ve never seen any reference to the organisation ever operating a P-51. The RCyAF came into being on Oct 10 1950 and was organised on RAF lines. Aircraft procurement began shortly after formation with an order for Vampire T.55s but these were reportedly returned still in their crates and alternative flying instruction was achieved using 12 Chipmunks and 9 Balliol. Some Oxfords were used for twin training. Doves and a variety of light aircraft were used in non combat roles and border patrols were conducted using Pioneer CC2s and internal security effected by Westland Dragonfly helicopters. Jet Provosts were acquired later.
I gleaned this not from any original research but from the Air Forces of the World written by Green and Fricker in 1958. I’m not aware of any P-51 procurement after that date so I’m bemused by the request for pictures but if I’m wrong bring them on!
Great news indeed – anyone know where it’s to be based?
Website for Dunsfold wings and wheels shows it as scheduled to be on static there on 26/8 whilst Plane Talk forum mentions its to be in the flying display at the Little Gransden event also on the 26th!
The prospect of this B-25 coming to the UK was mentioned previously in the following thread and I raised some questions in post 4 of that thread, but it looks like some confirmation is now coming through:
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=72705
So how many complete beau airframes in the UK have we got 3?
I would say 4 complete or nearly so i.e.: The Hendon, Duxford and East Fortune examples (though only the first is assembled) plus the SkySport example (G-DINT) at Hatch.
The SkySport example is based on the nose, forward fuselage, centre section, engines and u/c of the ex Halton machine plus parts (from Oz I seem to recall) including rear fuselage and I think also wings. I can’t recall the status / completeness of the wings or tail, as it’s some years since I inspected it and then the cockpit was partly restored and the rest was heavily dismantled. The SkySport website no longer shows it for sale but as in store.
from what i understand all four of the top four are under restoration to fly
1 mosquito in new zealand
2 blenheim in the uk
3 beaufighter in the uk plus a long term project down here
4 beaufort down here as well(hopefully not to far from completion)
paul
now where dowe find a whirlwind and hornet:eek:
Let’s not forget the great work in progress by Bob Jens in Vancouver, Canada who has an ex Spartan’s Mossie well on the way to airworthiness.
…………and i believe another in Coventry which makes 4 ………….
Let’s not start hares running – the example in Coventry is at the MAM and previously was in the old Birmingham Science Museum – it comprises purely the cockpit – not even a complete nose.
Elsewhere in the UK there’s also a substantial but sectioned anonymous fuselage that’s been displayed at various locations over the years in the UK.
Pete,
It was a Vampire T’11 that was on a pole at Anchor serial XD382 (8033M). My photo of it there was published in Wrecks & Relics 17th Edition back in 2000. It was ex Shawbury, Syerston, CATCS, CNCS, RAFC, 5 FTS, 206 AFS, 208 AFS. By Oct 03 it had moved and is now at East Midlands / Castle Donnington where it’s reportedly “to be restored using the pod of XD534 after which the pod of XD382 will be restored in its own right”. No doubt the folk at the Aeropark there can confirm or expand on that.
Tim
Thanks for searching that out Andy – is it a page from a volume of “Aeroplane Maintenance and Operation” published by Newnes?
Tim
what’s the b25-j silver lady? is that the red bull example?
Good question. I see the show website offers a link re Silver Lady direct to the history of 44-30456 which is the Tillamook machine (the Red Bull example is an entirely different machine 44-86893). If correct does this mean the Tillamook example is Europe-bound? (Probably no connection but Tillamook was where “G-AIDN” / MT818 was maintained before her recent sale.) I note Tillamook no longer list the B-25 in their inventory on their website. Could “Dunsfold” clarify please?
You could liaise with the Svedinos people at Ugglarp in Sweden. They’ve obtained a couple of ex BDR F-86Ds for their collection from Denmark and may perhaps have some spare items or know how to source items as the Danes had / have a number around derelict. I photographed these at their site this month.
[QUOTE=pogno;1143132]……………..This type was a real b####r to get off which might be why it went out of favour. ……………….
Wasn’t it also an irritant for those using it? I recall that the team who used it some years ago when finishing the restoration of the Vampire in the museum where I’m a member reported that after a day working with the stuff they suffered latent images of it for hours!
Where have you been for the last few years!? Following the incident depicted in your link this aircraft was recovered, fully restored (I think in ’03) and delivered by air to Dulles for the Smithsonian outstation there where it is now on static display. See:
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