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  • in reply to: Canberra Expertise Required – What Is This? #1160217
    spitfireman
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    Do you know if there is much left of the crash site?

    I believe the nose/cockpit seperated from the fuselage very high up, soon after the missile struck, but I never got to see the impact area so I simply don’t know.

    in reply to: Canberra Expertise Required – What Is This? #1160236
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    WH886 was B-108, the one lost to the Sea Dart, it was the last Argentine aircraft lost in the conflict (13 June 82) andthe pilot successfully ejected.
    I can’t find out where it actually ended up.
    According to Argentine losses website only two Canberras were lost.

    Correct with B-108 being WH886, shot down by sea darts from HMS Cardiff and Exeter. Pilot ‘came ashore in his dingy at Fitzroy’ Nav was killed. Maybe Canberra ‘hit land’ and pilot landed in sea.
    I flew around this area in a chinook and noticed the odd scar on the western island, but the crew always had other things on their minds and I never managed to investigate them.

    in reply to: Canberra Expertise Required – What Is This? #1160253
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    B-110 shot down by Lt. A. Curtis with a sidewinder….into the sea

    others not identified

    in reply to: Canberra Expertise Required – What Is This? #1160259
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    I know one of them lost was WH886 [not sure what its Argentine number was] i would be very interested to now how it met its fate.
    All the best Matt

    WH886 was B-108

    According to Canberra the operational record by Robert Jackson, 2 Canberras were shot down into the sea, the third is not mentioned.

    Again, were did B-108 fall ?

    in reply to: Canberra Expertise Required – What Is This? #1160268
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    Argentine Canberra losses

    I visited quite a few crash sites on the Falklands during 82, at the time no one was interested in bringing any of it back to the UK, the effort in dragging a lump of wreckage across the tundra was beyond me, then sneaking it past some over zealous RAF policeman at Brize Norton………………….

    I know 2 or 3 Canberras were lost over the Islands, I don’t recall seeing any Canberra remains – however, I only saw East isle.

    Where did they (B-108) drop? I thought one fell in the sea after a sea dart strike.

    in reply to: Canberra Expertise Required – What Is This? #1160299
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    Why would anyone mangle a very easy and common to find Canberra wing tip light and fitting?
    So as to pass it of as a lost in battle Argentine aircraft, thus giving it great Ebay value – just the cynic in me I guess.

    I’m a bit behind the curve here, is that where this light came from?

    in reply to: Canberra Expertise Required – What Is This? #1160307
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    It might help if creaking door could show us mortals the other side (please):)

    in reply to: Canberra Expertise Required – What Is This? #1160321
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    Hasn’t it been overlooked that this could be a fake anyway?
    Dosen’t matter what paint is where then.

    Your saying this may be Dornier ?

    in reply to: Canberra Expertise Required – What Is This? #1160678
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    Given that Argentine Canberras were finished in the NATO colour scheme of our late-era Canberras, you can see here that the Light Aircraft Grey colour (underside and underwing colours) is shown face up. Therefore, if you flip this over, it would be underneath, with the rounded outside edge of the light perspex on the starboard side. This is essentially what Tim said earlier about flipping it.

    All the Argentine Canberras had the same pattern camouflage and if you look at the wing tips, starboard upper is dark green and port upper is grey. Therefore, if there is a trace of green paint, it’s a pretty good indicator it is starboard.

    in reply to: F1 and Spitfire Duxford yesterday #1161887
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    FIA at Duxford

    ……now if we can get Bernie to change the rules ( he’s good at this) ……..
    and use only one engine supplier…………………..say Rolls Royce…………….and pick a particular engine block………say Merlin………I’d actually go and watch a race (well, listen) ……….22 merlins at the start……

    in reply to: Fw190 – Black 3 #1165083
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    Looks genuine enough to me, but appears that all the control surfaces are missing aft of their wing joint line giving the illusion of a complete wing. The Cross wouldn’t have been that close to the trailing edge.

    Your right Pagen

    The control rod is well inboard of the aileron and there is a fairing on the trailing edge of the wing (leading edge of aileron)

    The aileron is missing.

    There is damage to the trailing edge of the wing tip, also there does not appear to be enough room from the undercarraige maintenence hole on the leading edge [wing]to the fuselage. I don’t think the fuselage and the wing is connected. Maybe in moving it they have placed the fuselage too far up the wing?

    Anyway, something not quite right…….

    Baz

    in reply to: E-Bay Dornier 17-P…thereby hangs a tail! #1220496
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    Sorry chaps…also got a genuine instrument panel from a Me163 Komet (from the same collection) according to a Mr Saunders it has only done 48,000 miles.
    I believe it was built in the A.U.Stin factory Berlin. Sensible offers only please.

    Mondeo door….correction, Stuka panel sold, just give me a few days, I’ll have more in stock soon.

    in reply to: E-Bay Dornier 17-P…thereby hangs a tail! #1220814
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    …..not a good time to flog my genuine under wing panel from a Ju87 with provenance and complete history from Tangmere 1940?

    in reply to: E-Bay Dornier 17-P…thereby hangs a tail! #1220994
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    mmm….same guy who pushed me off the fence and compelled me to write posts. (October 2008)

    in reply to: WW2 Aircraft Wrecks in the English channel(2008) #1185693
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    A man’s passion under attack.

    I visited the beach where the engines remained covered by the sand since the 60’s, they were recovered and left on the shore line but the council said they had to be put back in the sea as the were ,’an eye sore’, I enquired time and time again but I was always told that they could not be recovered!

    Funny how, ‘they discovered by Dick Berrie and his sons Thomas & Sam, from Northants, after the recent storms whilst on Holiday!

    I hate the owner of the beach where these engines come from, just because a newspaper told a highly innacurrate story they were allowed to go to Barry Wallend, and are displayed outside along with his tupperware Spitfire!:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

    You need to calm down son; you’re making the women nervous.

    I’ve been trying to work out what ‘sore point’ you are trying to make and to what end?:cool:

    1. I never read the ‘alleged’ newspaper report, so have no idea what you are on about there.

    2. I was approached by the owner of Looe Museum as he did not know what to do with the engine and propellers of the B17 that was dragged off the beach and then secured locally on a farm. When I was called, I went and had a look and quickly realised that if they were not treated immediately, very soon there would be no propellers left to treat. The blades were flaking and powdering to bits ( oxidising?) I was told that the farmer wanted his trailer that they were sitting on and that other people had been asked and shown no interest. At that time it was me or the scrap man. At that particular moment in time I could have done without the hassle and expense of another project. There are people on this forum who will appreciate the cost of moving 2 ton of wide awkward load 40 miles and lifting it with a crane, over a wall, at short notice, on a Saturday! Its taken two years of painting with inhibitor to stop the corrosion.

    3. During the summer, Spitfire Corner has attracted up to 1,000 visitors a day due to coach tours, holiday visitors, local people, etc. It is a free, non-profit tiny museum with a replica Spitfire and a Canberra cockpit. There are 200 other aviation related items, mainly WWII bits and pieces. (some even bought off Tangmere!) All has been bought out of my own pocket.
    The engine/propellers that you indicate that should not be in my custody by innuendo, have been seen by over 120,000 people in four years. I’m keen to know what you would have done with them if you had been given them. Ebay?

    4. My (‘tupperware’) Spitfire raised £28,000 for charities when placed over Truro four years ago, with Truro Trade & Commerce. She also assisted with £4,500 donated to RAF St Eval memorial book six years ago. A further £1,600 has been raised and donated to various other charities around the local area. My Spitfire will assist next year in raising money for our wounded soldiers coming back from the Middle East.

    5. My (‘tupperware’) Spitfire has inspired a new generation of enthusiasts, model makers, artists, historians, etc.

    6. My Spitfire has been available for viewing 24/7 with a raised area for photography. Right now she is undergoing a £15,000 total refit and repaint including the use of original parts. Nav lights and ident lamps (all original and all working) fitted.

    7. It’s the only Spitfire on show in Devon and Cornwall (and probably much further)

    8. It’s the only WWII aeroplane on show in Devon and Cornwall (and probably much further)

    9. Spitfire Corner is only one of three such attractions in Cornwall (unless Me109E has an attraction I don’t know about?)

    10. At least I,m making an effort.

    11. Lastly, up till now, I’ve kept myself to myself and kept my head below the parapet (check my posts) I really enjoy the banter you lot generate!! But I dislike being ‘slagged off’ by a fellow enthusiast. Is there such an aversion to replicas that all replica owners are going to be tarred by a brush? In my mind, if there were no replicas in the world the average guy may never see the real thing as they are usually locked away on an airfield in a hangar.

    Finally, if your going to rant about another mans passion for aviation on an aviation forum behind his back, it’s worth knowing that probably half the people on it are not members, so he might actually be watching.

    By the way, to keep the records straight ; the name is Barry Wallond, not Wallend. 🙂

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