Here is something about one demolition:
As far as I can see, GE images are from 2006 and earlier.
Was one hangar removed before this weekend?
Assuming UTC+2hrs 😉
Not sure what you mean.
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Posted : 31st March 2008, 15:08
Resolved and completed : 31st March 2008, 15:54
Thats crowd-sourcing research for you.
Sometimes (often actually) this forum just amazes me.
Odd how a mistake like “D. Furniss” instead of “O.S. Furniss” would make it to a memorial stone.
5 Membres de l”équipage seront tués
Flight Sergeant Hilton Hardcastle FORDEN, R.A.A.F. inhumé à St-Remy-Sous-Barbuise au coté d’aviateurs des DV 281 et ND860
Sergeant Horace SKELLORN R.A.F.V.R inhumé à St-Remy-Sous-Barbuise au coté d’aviateurs des DV 281 et ND860
Pilot Officer C D Dickson; RAAF inhumé à Terlincthun British Cemetery
Sergeant P J Weaver inhumé à Terlincthun British Cemetery
Flight Sergeant O. S. Furniss RAAF inhumé à Terlincthun British Cemetery
2 survivront
Flight Sergeant R I Hunter RAAF rescapé sort inconnu
Flight Sergeant S D Jolly RAAF rescapé sort inconnu
Sources : Bomber Command, Barry Cuttell? Monsieur Fournier José
More info to follow, as I try to translate the French text.

You may be right in principle, but it certainly won’t be the Javelin, which has reached the end of its development road. 🙁
Pity. It was always quite high on my ‘post-lottery win’ list
Moggy
Don’t stop buying those lotto tickets.
From the Javelin website (news 3/3 2008).
“Since suspending the development of the Javelin in late December 2007, the Aviation Technology Board of Directors has continued to engage in negotiations with its strategic partner and various financial institutions. These discussions include developing alternatives to continue operations in the short-term as well as long-term options.
Much of the focus over the last several weeks has been in renegotiating both credit and teaming agreements. We are pleased to report that this task has been accomplished.
The efforts of the Board are now focused on negotiations with interested parties pursuing a possible sale or a majority buyout of ATG.
Multiple teams are pursuing a list of potential buyers. Though subject to change, the general plan in this regard is to ask for best and final offer bids from prospective buyers to reach ATG within the next few weeks. At that point the board will review all bids and negotiate with interested parties. “
Well, it’s declined steadily over the past 25+ years, and with ever increasing fuel/insurance costs and even fuel availability for the WW2 warbirds, there has to be a question mark on the privately owned stuff, not to mention the potential continued operational commitments on the current military hardware, so, I’d say the future is pretty bleak for airshows as we know them.
Just look at the traditional RAF sponsered Open Days/Battle of Britain shows. There were over 50 of them back in mid 1950’s, and that had reduced down to a dozen or so by the late 1980’s, and is now down to just 3 this year with Leuchars back on the list……:rolleyes:
Think of all the USAFE open days that have disappeared too in the last 20 years.
Stangely enough I feel that private warbird numbers are on the rise. We might (as you seem to hint) be looking at environmental legislation, that will prevent operation of high octane gasolin engines. I don’t think it will be a financial issue for the operators, as there are people willing to pay the price for operating warbirds.
The military airshows have been declining. The military simply don’t feel they get their investment back (here is another side of the current economic mainstream view, which I won’t start shouting about now). They have choosen to “downsize” this part of their public relations. Its a shame and might also be a bad decision, as friendly interaction between the military and the population is what produces recruits (part of what makes people get to know the military, as more than headlines).
Here is a gasthly thought: Could it happen, that the British state one day “downsized” BBMF to a static display?
Not for technical reasons, but purely due to economics (investment and return).
Err……that means you’re not even born yet….by at least 42 years 😉
Anyway, I suspect that the airshow scene as we know it today (let alone of 20+ years ago:( ) will be have ceased to exist within the next 10-15 years.
Stop being so mathematical 😀
So you actually think the scene will decline?
Regarding the long life of modern combat aircraft.
Maybe its due to technology having surpassed human alility. The aircraft already flew faster than the brain in the late 60’s. The design of modern fighters are sound, and their replacements depends on better electronics, which often are introduced in upgraded versions.
There is no need to sqeeze another march fraction from a modern fighter. They already fly as fast as man can control them.
Back when they produced Spits, each mark had better performance and could thus be seen as a good replacement. Today its not raw performance, but system performance that drives combat aircraft.
Their lifespan is their structural lifespan, and even then mid-life upgrades are often introduced. Besides better systems, what step forward in pure aviation is new fighters like F-22?
Maybe we can agree, that no one knows the future legislation for civilian aircraft. So we should list the aircraft we could imagine (legislation providing) at a future airshow (maybe Duxford 2025).
While i fully ageree with with BlueRobin regarding the growing restoration industry, and we not only find more wrecks, we have also lowered the requirements for a restoration-worthy wreck. I think (besides assuming WWII birds will fly forever) we should keep this thread to current (or near-current) aircraft, that will be “warbirds” of future airshows.
Besides the types mentioned earlier, I would expect to see proto-types, or demo aircraft, as a future show stopper. Mainly trainer and light attack aircraft, due to the cost involved in operating a true fighter like the F-15.
I would already pay to see a Skyfox (Boeing T-33 based trainer/light attack).
I only know this airfield from pictures. Whats the story with the hangars, are they in use?
Its often that unused hangars are demolished due to structural problems. People like to see them on the airbase, but no one are willing to pay for the maintenance. Sooner or later they become dangerous.
I hope they leave the controltower, thats an outstanding funkis building.
Hmm, Quite understand the reasons given above. But where does that leave us in the future for airshows? Will we be relient upon airforces and their budgets? Maybe we need to encourage airlines to start bringing their aircraft for us to look at now flight deck visits are banned in the air.
Would be interested to hear what other people think and would like to see in the future, or should this be a different thread? Mod. please move as you see fit.
I think your post fits quite well here.
The few yearly Danish airshows always gets a flying visit from SAS. Sometimes a static display too (or a combination if its held on a civilian airport). I can’t see them inviting the public inside, there are simply too many people at airshows.
The problem with modern airliners is that they are so boring. It matters little if its a 737 or an Airbus 320, either one of them would be enough to represent that generation of civilian transportplanes. Unless you want registrations :p
I don’t think we need to worry about warbirds as we know them today. There are more and more in the air and hopefully they will fly for many years. There has actually been a sharp rise (or at least it looks that way to me) in private WWII aircraft, and the general interest has also been growing. What we see today, we will continue to see as long as techincally possible.
The Viperjet and javlin would be good guesses on a future display. Along with a range of current military trainers. Maybe even the B-52 mentiones above, but it would be a serious undertaking to operate it (possible equal to restoring and operating two b-29).
Maybe WWI & II replica flying will grow. I’m always reading about a startup production of aircraft somewhere. FW-190, Bücker and others. At the moment they don’t seem to do great business (seem the replica is priced too close to the real macoy, so maybe as actual warbirds increase in value, they will find themselves as a better financial option).
Regarding the show value of current fighter types. Although few people will have the money to operate them, maybe some will be purchased for static display. Not in a museum, but owned by private groups who transport them between airshows (I know it dosent sound like a great airshow, but at least they will be on display).
Id love that
just a bit too much tho
anyone wanna go 1/2s ?
668
Would love to 😀
Although i think its a very fair price for a full Anson. There is still plenty of work (and money to be spend), but then you have a very rare and historic aircraft.
I hope the buyer has a good plan (money, storage and restoration) for the aircraft, otherwise it will dissapear within a few years.