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  • in reply to: Your favorite unusual aircraft #1265169
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    Unusual aircraft of the day is the Payen PA 49B “Katy”.

    Designed by Frenchman Nicolas Roland Payen, who was an early delta wing and canard proponent (see his pre-war PA 22, which the Germans had a keen interest in).

    It flew in 1954 and is now preserved at the Museum of the Air and the Space of Le Bourget.

    http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x217/MONDARIZDK/Pa49.jpg

    Here is a link to some drawings of other Payen designs, its well worth a visit.

    http://home.att.net/~dannysoar2/Payen.htm

    in reply to: Luftwaffe aircraft relic 16 Aug 1940 #1266564
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    I enjoyed the detective work. Always nice with a chance to discover some history.

    I took the liberty to inform the creator of the Findon website about this thread. Maybe they can use your picture for their site.

    Would be nice to see how many pieces could be found.

    in reply to: Sukhoi T-4 #1266747
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    in reply to: Luftwaffe aircraft relic 16 Aug 1940 #1266769
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    A bit more info:

    16 August 1940 He111 P 7./KG55 Gl+FR Wk Nr 1582.

    (P) Ltn. Rudolf Theopold (58246/199),
    (O) Uffz. Rudolf Hornbostel (58246/403)
    (W) Gfr. Helmut Glaser (58246/128) PoW.
    (FE) Uffz. Albert Weber (58246/123)
    (G) Gfr. Johannes Moorfeld (58246/411) killed.

    Attacked by F/Lt.R.F. Boyd and Blue Section of No. 602 Squadron
    during an attack on Heathrow aerodrome.

    Crashed at Honeysuckle Lane, High Salvington, Nr
    Worthing, Sussex.

    As we now know, it was near Cote street.

    in reply to: Luftwaffe aircraft relic 16 Aug 1940 #1266771
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    BINGO!

    A HE 111

    http://www.findonvillage.com/0617_the_high_salvington_heinkel_16th_august_1940.htm

    From the page:

    “As the German plane vanished over the hill, young Eric and a friend, John Jeffs, leapt on to their bikes and, after scouring the nearby narrow roads and leafy lanes, eventually found the German plane crashed in a field just off Cote Street, High Salvington.”

    Must have misspelled Cote street.

    in reply to: Luftwaffe aircraft relic 16 Aug 1940 #1266883
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    Hello folks

    Here are the pics – someone has helpfully scratched “tail” on the back. The shade of paint makes me think it’s Luftwaffe but others with more knowledge may not agree.

    There was a later raid in the afternoon of 16 Aug – maybe it came from this?

    Thanks!

    Where was the raid and is there a Coote street in the area?

    Just realised that i have been looking for 16 August 1941.

    in reply to: Luftwaffe aircraft relic 16 Aug 1940 #1266911
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    Was it a custom to write this kind of information on a “trophy”?

    I mean if a pilot shot down an aircraft and could get his hands on a bit, would he write something like that?

    If its just a piece somebody found on the street, i don’t think they would write it down like that, as it would have no significance to them (beyond being a war relic).

    Any chance we can get a picture?

    in reply to: Luftwaffe aircraft relic 16 Aug 1940 #1266921
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    There is a Coote Street in Portlaoise Ireland. Google maps gives gives 6 other, all but one in Australia (the last is in Canada).

    I have been searching a bit and can’t find any information on a crash there.

    Could it be a misspelled French location?

    Like Saint “something”

    in reply to: Sukhoi T-4 #1266936
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    I just found this bit on Wikipedia:

    “The T-4 is also believed to be the “aircraft 101″ that set a 2000 km circuit speed record of mach 1.89. This would seem to indicate that it couldn’t cruise at its designed speed of almost Mach 3 and could be a reason the program was canceled.”

    and this from http://www.aviation.ru/Su/

    “3 built; 1 preserved in Monino; 2 destroyed.”

    in reply to: Your favorite unusual aircraft #1266945
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    A note on the Horten brothers.

    The Horten Ho 229 V3 prototype is currently “rusting” away at the Smithsonian’s Garber restoration facility.

    A great shame for aviation history.

    http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x217/MONDARIZDK/Horton-GO229-front.jpg

    in reply to: Your favorite unusual aircraft #1266955
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    One i really liked…

    The I.Ae.38 Naranjero by the Horten brothers. An Argentinian-built flying wing used to lift oranges and other fruits around… hey, the guys had to find someplace to work after WW2, right?

    As with all Horten designs, the Naranjero deserves a place in the unusual list.

    BTW only Reimar Horten went to Argentina. Brother Walter stayed in Germany and joined the post-war Luftwaffe. I wonder if he continued to design?

    in reply to: Your favorite unusual aircraft #1267114
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    that one above looks very similar in design to the Yak38 “Freehand”

    erm a couple of golden oldies

    North American XB-70 1964-1969
    Grumman X-29 1984-1991
    McDonnel XP-57 1941

    BAC TSR.2 1964
    Bristol 188 1962
    H.P.115 1961

    (IMHO TSR.2 and 188 were unusual looking at the time they were built and flown)

    Nice selection.

    The X-29 always seemed to fly the wrong way, must be confusing in a dog-fight :p

    Would that be the McDonnell XP-67 Bat?

    in reply to: Your favorite unusual aircraft #1267148
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    Dreams of flight, or nightmare of budgeting.

    This particular little bird (DuPont Aerospace DP-2) spend 21 years in development and $63 million in funding, before it finally dawned on people, that it couldn’t fly.

    The plane, designed to take off like a helicopter and then fly at high speed, failed to remain in the air for more than a few seconds in 49 separate tests.

    Here is a great quote regarding the DP-2.

    “”The good news is that when it crashes, it only crashed from a foot or two off the ground,” said subcommittee Chairman Brad Miller, D-N.C..”

    Best thing was that Pentagon analysts had rejected the idea from day one. I guess Mr DuPont had some old collage buddies somewhere in the administration.

    http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x217/MONDARIZDK/dp2_new.jpg

    And a video link (might be the one that kept the bucks flowing).

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1Ze9Xizpfc

    in reply to: Your favorite unusual aircraft #1267160
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    Aircraft to go.

    Developed by Boeing in competition with the Cessna Model 305 (later known as L-19 Bird Dog). The YL-15 Scout proved to be just a bit too unconventional for the US army.

    As seen on the picture, the YL-15 could be disassembled and transported on any standard 2 ½-ton Army truck. Presumably as a cheap substitute for a helicopter.

    I love the way that they clearly state it belongs to the army GROUND forces…..DUH!

    http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x217/MONDARIZDK/Boeingxl15observerinback.jpg

    http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x217/MONDARIZDK/xl15truckmobile.jpg

    in reply to: Your favorite unusual aircraft #1267898
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    I always liked this a/c as well,I thought it looked a bit like a ‘reshuffled’ Me 262

    Cheers Baz

    Yes, it does have a Willy Messerschmitt feel to it.

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