that’s a suprising change of view SOC. what made u change ur mind? or were u just leading me on before?

“More then 20.000 for sure.”

more the 330,000 where written off too. i was stating everything on the low side to be fair.

“Nationality, not race, u mean? “

u were the one who said ‘china’ and not ‘PRC’, either u didnt say what u mean or u said what u didnt mean. dont try to wriggle out of with by spiltting hairs.

“Said that keeping Taiwan in view. I am not arguing abt the stunt being political or not. A shot was fired and it hit him. That was captured on TV. So there is nothing ‘magical’ about the bullets trajectory.”

no-one was arguing abt what anyone say, cos from that crappy picture, could anyone really say when the whole appeared in the windscreen?

what is truely magical abt that bullet is what it managed to do. it managed to graze chen’s belly at the belly-button even though chen was facing the direction the bullet came from; the same bullet then somehow managed to graze the knee of lu and reture to chen.:rolleyes:

this mangic nullet puts the kennedy bullet to shame.:rolleyes:

what’s also amazing is how the thousands of chen suppoters and hundreds of security ppl along the roads saw absolutly nothing of the attacker or the weapon he used, and this is in the middle of a sunny day!

yeah, bush style.:rolleyes:

won by 20,000 votes, but 330,000 were deemed ‘invalid’, have to wonder how many of those 330,000 were for the other guy.:rolleyes:

“Sorry, didnt know u were chinese. Wouldnt have bothered to post that message.”

didnt know race was an issue here.:rolleyes:

yes look at singapore! its probably the cleanest place on earth…strike that, the cleanest place on earth where lots of humans live.:rolleyes:

if we can just be arsed to wrap gum in its packaging and put it in a bin (and not litter and not take a pi$$ in the street when we’re pi$$ed…) then we can all live in a nice and clean place.:rolleyes:

currently the iraqis want the occupation to end, but they also dont want the chaos that would follow if the occupiying forces left too abruptly.

the biggest problem at present is that the ppl the iraqis need are also the same ppl that many of them hate and would like gone, and the heavy handed US military isnt making things any better.

the current plan of training and arming iraqis to maintain security has worked to some extent, however it might take too long to complete. even if the plan works, most of the armed iraqis would come from the shiite side, and they been opressed by saddam and the sunnis for decades, so there is the potentical of a kosova style event happening if things are left to run its course.

the best solution would be to have a huge UN peacekeeping force to completely replace all american military personnel and to keep the peace until iraq can get back on its feet. with time and wealth, hopefully the hatred between iraq’s different minorities can have a chance to be forgotten if not forgiven.

however, two major political obsticals stand in the way.

1) there are only a handful of nations that have the manpower and resources to take over from the US in iraq, and none of them were too keen on going into iraq in the first place. so it would be doubtful that they would be willing to make themselves look weak internationally and face major domestically pressure as casaulties ineveitably result from this move.

2) the americans didnt go into iraq for fun, and i doubt that the US would pull all its troops out of iraq even if someone else offered to send troops to take their place.

however, as long as US troops remain, any UN force would be seen only as the US’s ‘henchmen’ and not as policemen. this means that attacks against the UN force would likely be as frequant and deadly as attacks are currently against US troops. this would make it more unlikely that anyone would be willing to send troops in in the first place.

also, as long as US troops remain in iraq, they would be seen as tempting targets for anyone with a gun and a dislike for americans in the region (which is alot of ppl), and many of them will continue to flood into iraq and cause all sorts of problems. and that’s on top of the well orginised and financed terrirost orgs like Al-Q.

its most likely an unoffical name given by a poster to try to distinguish between this improved FC-1 and the ‘baseline’ FC-1.