Watch Ray’s displays closely. A masterclass in energy management and making the straight forward look difficult, low level. Sadly, I feel, the accidents mentioned stem from poorly executed high risk manouvres, little regard to enegy/ escape gates and a gung-ho element. To compare like with like is unfair.
Be surprised if we see Ray doing much in the way of display flying in the UK anymore. How old is he now, mid 70’s(?), well deserved retirement. I think that we’ve seen the last of the best of the best….
Sad news. Great display pilot and a really nice guy.
The only occasion when you have too much fuel on board is when your on fire!
Has to be the most aviodable of accidents. It’s one thing to have a bad day and incidents do happen but some things are unforgivable. My heart goes out to the many who have spent so much time and money in making the impossible, possible and giving us all the pleasure of seeing such a wonderful aeroplane fly.
Well put Warbird UK. The ‘boys-own’ idillic views on this whole subject have no place in the future of not only display flying but the operation of vintage aeroplanes altogether.
Some comments which have been given a bit of thought and common sense appear, galbri for one, and all of a sudden the debate is mindless!! I think some need to open up their eyes and stop dreaming. Display flying regulation has improved dramatically in recent years sadly principally due to crashes at shows. Those with heads in the sand might deplore a tightening of the regs now but how will you feel when the sort of press that accidents generate lead to an outright ban of diplay flying.
Oh dear.I think that you’ve got the wrong end of the stick. We’re not talking about unlimited aerobatics in a warbird simply poorly and unneccesary routines that involve little room for error and seem to be focused on displaying the pilot skills rather than the aircraft. None of the previously mentioned accidents that resulted from a departure were from advanced aerobatics simply too slow too low.
Ref Moggy C’s reply. I think that this debate can make all the valid points without the finger pointing, naming names , sensationalist level that you seem to be lookin for. Does’nt exactly say anything positive by simple repeating a post and rubbishing it. I agree with Warbird UK’s response, just look a little harder and think.
Airshow aeros
The big issue with low level flying, let alone aero’s, in any aeroplane is continuity. Little room too play with. The aeroplanes that we are discussing here are high energy machines, when it goes wrong it will do so quickly and eat up a great deal of sky. As mentioned the Brietling display consists of simple aeros, but they do it on a professional level with plently of practise, it shows! A smooth low level flat display vs an aerobatic display of ANY nature if far far safer and usually more impressive.
Nothing worse than a totally aviodable accident, the result of simply a high risk routine. I believe that the time has come for the CAA through the GA/DA world to really think twice before issuing DA’s in certain cases. If the BBMF and Shuttleworth type organisations can do it then so can all the rest.