cant see the need to ‘drop it in’ ,that runways more than ample for an aeroplane with far worse handling at slow speed that a Spitfire. it certainly wasn’t that windy. he simply got too slow and misjudged the round out!
Interesting to watch first hand. At the end of the day it’s in a field and the pilot, and of less importance the aeroplane, is ok. Lucky it didn’t turn over in the field with that much crop in it.
However I was really surprised to see him turn away from the field when it was clearly running very rough. Off the smoky pass he was is a perfect position high key to turn downwind for the main runway. Having displayed at Old Warden in the past I know that the collections SOPs / displays have an immediate re-land in mind at all times.
Its at Shoreham, no question.
No real surprises in the report regarding the principal element of busted minima , botched maneuver and ‘carry on itus’ with lack of escape at the top of the loop. For all the comments in the aviation press slating the CAA for being ‘heavy handed’ in the tightening of regulations, when considering the innocent parties involved they are more than justified in tightening things a lot more. Practical drift has been exposed within the airshow community and sadly it took an event of this magnitude to change things. The AAIB should be given a great deal of credit for, as always, the professionalism and depth of a report such as this.
Visited last week. B of B hall open. Bit surprised which aeroplanes they have taken apart. Defiant wingless and lots of panels off; hasn’t been back at Hendon that long after a major rebuild? Jungmann, likewise and a relatively newer addition in terms of when it last flew. The German types have lots of fairings removed which is very interesting to see. The only aeroplane that, at face value, really looks like it will need a serious amount of work to it is the Spitfire.
The Mile Stones hall has some big gaps as part of the re shuffle.
Still a great way to spend a few hours though.
Well put Meddle. Easy for another CAA bash. Interesting doc published yesterday with regard to the Shoreham latest, AAIB recommendations vs CAA action shows a far more balanced approach than this simplistic ‘their out to stop air shows’ attitude of many.
Finally it appears that one ‘outfit’ has actually read the revised 403. Some absolute rubbish being banded around by some seasonal display pilots who should know better. Whilst I appreciate the ‘uproar’ with regard to additional charges the previous set up operated as an ‘old boy network’ within a set of rules that have been exposed as not fit for purpose.
The notion that the Shoreham crash was a ‘freak accident’, by a current display pilot, smacks of the arrogance that plainly contributed to the tragedy in the first place.
As clearly stated in one of the CAA’s first responses the priority at any event is the safety of third parties. Mr O’Brien’s statement (5 live last week)that the changes “wouldn’t have made any difference” at Shoreham is downright wrong.
See on other forums that its confirmed what I had heard; pilot inadvertent gear up select as it vacated the runway. Was this Merlin 1 or another jockey?
Very sad and as usual rather aviodable. Some interesting changes to operating procedures at the end of the AAIB report. Mention of fitting ‘accurate instrumentation’ to old aeroplanes rather strange. Simply only fly them in suitable weather would suffice.
As per the last ‘incident’ I like the pilots comment that the aeroplane system must have been at fault. Previous nose over had an interesting AAIB follow up that found nothing wrong with the aeroplane! Hope he’s sitting down when his insurance renewal arrives.
As per the last ‘incident’ I like the pilots comment that the aeroplane system must have been at fault. Previous nose over had an interesting AAIB follow up that found nothing wrong with the aeroplane! Hope he’s sitting down when his insurance renewal arrives.
For heavens sake, its not at the threshold the ‘ramp’ is in the undershoot. If your trying to be smart at least give it some cedibility!
bump!
I can think of several airfield that if you undershoot you would be in a load of trouble. As Ewan says the threshold is somewhat further west. I recall a Sea Harrier landing short at YVL a few years ago and actually hitting the runway lip! Pure and simple pilot misjudgement as in the case of the B17. The P51 was aiming for the threshold when it lost power hence the understoot which being grass is a lot more friendly than it could have been at most airfields.
POLE
Well put Malcolm. Again, realms of hero worshipping when a vintage aircraft has a prang. When you do anything in the public eye you really have got to be whiter than white and its only human to make mistakes. I would steer some of the aggressive post replies to any suggestion that the pole did not just pop up to the AAIB report of the T33 crash at Duxford. Again any remarks that were less than fully endorsing of the pilot after that incident were lamblasted!!
VULCAN FLYPAST??
Me thinks more chance of a sqdn of FRS1 Sea Harriers flying down over London than the Vulcan.