On 17 February 2010 began the era of system Strales / DAVIDE on OTO 76mm/62 for DART ammo onboard ITS Capt. Foscari . The first tests were conducted off the coast of the interforce polygon of Salto di Quirra (PISQ) in Sardinia.
From Marina Militare
The original news, in italian, on Marina Militare website
http://www.marina.difesa.it/diario/2010/0331_progdavide/index.asp
The latest reports indicate that the first ships to receive the system will be the other 3 OPV Fulgosi (Foscari systers), followed by Cavour and Horizon/Doria.
For Vulcano program, the Lupo frigate Bersagliere will be relocate in La Spezia as trial ship for extensive trial of Vulcano ammo from her 127/54 LW and 1 kit for Vulcano compatibility will be install on 1 of 2 De La Penne 127/54 Compatto, presumibily De La Penne now in yard for receiving its MLU
What I find interesting is the on mount radar, I presume the cover bolted on top of the turret usually covers the radar.
Looks like they really are pushing the idea of an oto76 as a CIWS system.
But they would have to be integrated together. The French system provides a complete package (at a price).
Well a package of sub systems, I would think the integration process would of been no different unless they plan to throw out the Chinese mission computers and put in new ones. Considering it already has a western type open architecture avionics system with a MIL-STD-1553B databus there seems little point doing that.
So we are talking about subsystems like RWR, radar and missiles…the integration process would be no different really. The biggest issue would be getting the SD-10 speaking to the radar properly or the Denel R-Darter but certainly not insurmountable by any measure and Selex gives a rather nice path to AESA as well.
Aside from all that looking at what the Chinese have done with the Avionics already I am impressed, it has a modern glass cockpit with decent HUD and growth potential. Even the NRIET KLJ-7 radar appears to be rather good with a performance better then the AN/APG-66 fitted to the early block F16 operated by the PAF, thats quiet something considering where the Chinese defence electronics industry was even 15 years ago.
Frankly I always have been rather bemused by the avionics, radar and missile deal with France for the JF-17. I have always felt there are better sources in the west for the systems probably at a better price.
Firstly Radar: Selex Galileo Grifo S-7. A company and radar they already have a relationship with.
Avionics: Selex Galileo and SAAB Avitronics. They already have a relationship with these companies via the pre mentioned radar and the AEW deal. This means Swedish and South African avionics or Italian/British.
Missiles: Denel A-Darter and R-Darter. Again a prior relationship and already stated interest in these missiles.
Thats not forgetting the rather improved Chinese systems and missiles we have seen recently.
If you look at the numbers India needs to traim, then I think NFTC may not be an option…
Indeed I do realise that but better then nothing, they need to look at a range of options.
Of course the real issue is there own defence procurement bottleneck.
again, this is flawed. Last time Oman has any trouble was almost 40 years ago…
Yeman is in no position to attack. In fact Omans Jaguars and F-16 are more then enough.
Everyone seems keen on playing the Iranian bogey. Iran has made more threats against Pakistan that actually shares a large land border with Iran, yet Pakistan stations no troops or major airbases near Iran.
Oman managed to remain neutral and unhurt during
1) The Iranian revolution
2) Iran-Iraq war
3) Gulf War 1
4) Gulf War 2What has changed?
These aircraft are a gift from Oman to Britain in terms of jobs and money. Thats all….
Maybe the Jaguar and F16 are enough for their defence needs but the Jaguar are old and need replacing. Why not go and buy further equipment on a like for like basis from an allie. That is often the reason given by Pakistan for purchasing equipment from China, albeit Pakistan has had less choice on the global market for many years. Certainly more F16 would of been just as useful but maybe they want to maintain defence procurement diversity as well.
We can quibble about the level of defence threat but the numbers they are talking about on a like for like basis are reasonable, Omans airforce will still be small in comparison to neighbours.
So whilst I agree that part of this is to furnish the UK with money and jobs they do have a reasonable defence requirement in that Jaguars are getting old and why not take the business to an allie maintaining procurement diversity.
Hmmm, not sure why they have the Pilatus PC21 or the Super Tucano down as there stage 1 basic trainers. Really they are stage 2 intermediate and the PC21 can be used as an alternative to the jet stage 3 advanced trainer.
The Grob 115 makes far more sense for that level of training.
Frankly the best solution at the moment would be to slip Indian pilots onto power by the hour contractor training or place them with foreign airforces much like with those trained with the RAF as part of the Hawk contract or even sign up for NFTC in Canada as an interim solution.
http://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/03/31/tanker-deadline-extended-60-days/
UPDATED: Boeing Slams DoD Extension; EADS Says 60 Days Not Enough
As far as I can see it Boeing is the one has delayed things by protesting the previous contract won by Northrop Grumman and EADS.
Anyway as has been said they would love a single source contract for their paper tanker.
Well its pretty well known that no more then about 12 F35 would operate off a CVF in peace time anyway.
50 to 60 F35 would allow 12 each to operate from both carriers if they did sail at the same time with a reserve to increase the size of the airgroup in a wartime operation. Remember during the Falklands war only 28 Sea Harriers and 10 Harrier GR3 deployed south with only the Sea Harrier initially available.
Two big decks allow you to be far more flexible with the aircraft you can deploy not forgetting the helicopters.
In effect the Royal Navy maintains two small sea focused squadrons of F35 with 800 and 801NAS. Each squadron rotating between land and carrier operations during peace time whilst the aircraft are in a common pool with the RAF. In the event of a war requiring the services of the carriers the RAF provides the surge capability, as proven during the Falklands war its not that difficult to get the RAF types to operate off the carrier. If anything it will be easier as they will operate from the same base with the Ski jump and deck training area and modern flight simulators which will allow them to practice the theory without having to focus on it.
I agree that whilst QE is pretty much a cert now I am a bit jumpy about PoW and will only be happy when I see her super blocks in construction, hopefully the contract clauses are too tight for any future government to have an attack of stupid and cancel her now.
Only matter now is maintaining the Ark Royal name plate, I wouldn’t be surprised if a future replacement of Ocean gets it.
Yes, and look at page four “war of words…”
Now, were did i see that same text? 😀Cheers
Who knows…:D
But I did find it rather funny…especially the bit about zero export sales for Rafale…looks like both sides can punch below the belt…
Landing on roads and highways is something IAF needs very urgently too, given the worst-case scenario of a 2-pronged war against China and Pakistan. I don’t think any current fighter jet has this capability, though maybe in the future Tejas should have it (given it’s huge delta-wing).
I don’t think there is any aircraft that couldn’t operate off a road in Indian service, its purely a training and logistics issue.
Well nearly there then, I doubt this anouncement would of been made unless it was pretty much in the bag.
It is clear that this is wrong, these vessels contain only a single system of Kashtan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steregushchy_class_corvette
Well in the intended role more then one Kashtan is probably over kill anyway, she’s not intended for blue water ops.
A handsome corvette nevertheless and if they can keet the price point down potentially good export oportunities.
Hello all! 🙂
According to my “Military Balance 2008” (I don’t have any of the more recent editions), there is no independant Air force in Montenegro, most aircrafts being under army’s command and based at Podgorica…
Inventory is:
Airplanes:
15 G-4 Super- galeb (8-9 serviceable)
4 UTVA-75 basic trainersHelicopters:
15 SA-341/342L Gazelle (half of them being airworthy)
5 Mi-8T (stored awaiting overhaul)That’s all what’s written… 😎
Not bad for there needs, fixed wing types that can be used in the COIN role and Gazelle which can be used in a millitary or police role.
I can see them being rather keen to get the Mi-8T airworthy again as its a very handy type for civil and millitary transport duties.
I could see a variant of the F124 Sachsen class being rather attractive to Canada.
It blurs the line between destroyer and Frigate with ASW and AAW capability, it has the APARS system which I believe Canada was involved with and American missiles which should be attractive to a cost conscious nation.
They could go for CODAG or even possibly CODAD propulsion if they want to keep running costs down.
Its modular MEKO roots would also be attractive allowing affordable upgrade paths.
How many airframe hours do the current Lynx’s have left though?
Airframe hours are not a major issue with helicopters as the major stress components are transmission and Engines which can both be replaced.
Thats the reason why so many airforces, navies and armies keep helicopters in service for such a long time. The main reason for introducing new helicopters is a requirement for improved performance or a lack of affordable spares.