Shallow minded comment by shallow minded person… British aid for 2009 to India is less than one billion pounds.. still might sound a lot .. until you examine where it actually goes. 70% of it is actually used to prop up British interests in India… for example companies that trade with UK or ogranisations that are of benefit to UK… it would be like USA saying look at the bilions of “Aid” we give to Saudi Arabia… when in fact it has nothing to do with aid but self serving economic and strategic interests.
Other 30% is actually used for charitable work, like health and enviromental help for locals… on total scale its peanuts… and it only serves to make British feel better for robbing that country blind for hundred years… or have we forgoten where the “crown jewels ” (like star of INDIA) came from and how were they stole.. i mean “acquired” me ol chap ???
In real terms India could give a toss what UK does with its aid.. though such public over-beat up of non issue might cause Indians to pause and rethink some of their procurement decisions in future… like Hawks.. or Typhoon chances in MMRCA….:rolleyes:
How dare you call me shallow minded!
I have reported you to the mods for abusive comments!
I was only expressing mild bemusement with a curious situation! That we give AID to a country that has a MULTIBILLION dollar defence budget!
A coastal defence force isn’t a viable option for the UK. If you are going down that road, may as well abolish the armed forces in their entireity and make some real savings!:eek:
We are not a landlocked country in the middle of Europe, we are an Island Nation dependent on seabourne trade with the whole planet. Our National interests are Global, not local. The overseas aid budget is comparable to the defence budget, but arguably less effective. If serious efforts were made to eradicate waste in the welfare and health budgets that in itself would free up enough money to double the defence budget, that’s the magnitude of the difference…;)
I agree with Obi on this, I think it will be difficult to find savings in the Welfare and health budgets but the overseas aid budget needs a serious look at!
Frankly I am highly bemused about the amount of aid we give to India when they have a multi billion defence budget for example…
I’m not surprised that an F-22 would get spotted so far away as it was up against an L-band radar and a very powerful one at that. Coupled with the X-band APAR radar the F-22 would stand very little chance of being able to hide from a well developed AAW system operated by competent people. If people know much about radar bands and the frequencies in these bands as well as the processing techniques used to extract target information add that to a basic knowledge if stealth this will not be surprising. That is of course if this did happen but things like this do happen all the time but we just don’t hear about them.
Indeed, if this is all true its hardly surprising.
Ships can carry large radar array, with plenty of power and space for computers.
Whilst the F-22 is optimised to defeat X band radar systems with all the processing power available on a ship and the L band radar providing information as well its more then capable of engaging this fighter.
The type 45 with its next generation S band SAMPSON an its active homing ASTER should be even more lethal a threat.
i know we’ll never hear about it. But I would love to know how these stack up against the Astutes in simulated war games.
The Virginia wouldn’t even know what is happening as the Astute simulates sinking it over and over again!:diablo:
The F35B will be a rare visitor to a CVN as is the Harrier now, no reason why they can’t.
Just do a rolling take off from the deck.
OK not an AV8B but here is a pic of a Seaharrier operating from the Eisenhower:

The Italian tankers do have wing pods, & Boeing has had great difficulty with them. Nothing wrong with the pods. The problems are with Boeings integration of them on the wings. It’s had serious wing flutter issues, & has struggled to correct them. It’s modified the pylons. It may have had to modify the wings: I’m not sure.
Also a problem the Airbus doesn’t suffer as she hangs her pods of the same hardened wing points as the a340’s outer engines. Basically the plumbing can be easily routed due to the area usually running engines and aerodynamically the location is already tested for large engines.
Anyway whilst the Italian and Japanese 767 still can’t do it here is the Australian prototype KC30 tanking from both pods:

Oh and just for fun here is the EADS boom passing fuel:

michelf touches on the idea that the improvements are within the realm of possible. Very rarely has the infrastructure not been improved with the advent of new aircraft models. This is a completely normal evolution of the force structure. In reality the upgrades match pretty close in timing for scheduled maintenance and improvements of the same airfields. It merely piggybacks the new construction onto the current programs of reconstruction that would have taken place anyhow.
Indeed the ramps at any airfield will be periodically resurfaced anyway, just a case of fitting in with that cycle.
Not ignoring the fact that many ramps can happily take the weight of heavier aircraft then the a330…this is an issue blown out of all proportion by some.
On the other as Michelf says if their is no room for a runway extension or land ownership issues then your bang out of luck!
Or not bother fitting anything there so as to not add any more top weight!
Yes, CNS Almirante Williams (FF-19) (ex-HMS Sheffield), a batch 2 ship.
She was decommissioned from the RN on 5 November 2002, and commissioned in the Armada de Chile on 4 September 2003.
She began a refit in March 2008, in ASMAR Talcahuano for installation of OTO 76 mm gun, Harpoon anti-ship missile and Barak SAM instead of Sea Wolf for defence.
She just recently was returned to service,conducting her post-refit trials last month, so she was unavailable for the photo shoot Tango III posted from.
There are pics & discussion (in Spanish) here: http://base.mforos.com/730111/3280645-fragata-tipo-22-2-ff-19-almirante-williams/?pag=23
Page 23 & all of page 24.
I bet Brazil and Romania will take a close look at the result of this refit especially in respect of Barak.
The diagram shows Harpoon in a central position.
they seem to be taking better care of their Type 23’s than we are, although I wonder why they have removed the harpoons from HMS Grafton
Just a fresh lick of paint…
As for the Harpoons they can be mounted again, I don’t think the sale included them.
Whats more interesting is one of the Type 23 has the earlier curvy 4.5 gun mount rather then the new stealth version.
The thing is there is a lot of misunderstanding when it comes to HARM and ALARM including the 99 vs 1 shot from Kosovo.
The fact is they are different systems developed for different situations.
First of we need to understand that the ALARM is a far more expensive system then HARM and this is mainly due to the nature of the launch platforms.
The US can afford to have dedicated SEAD/DEAD types in service with the sensors and smarts built into the airframe itself, as a system most of the thinking is done on the aircraft and HARM is a cheap way of introducing an offensive punch.
For the RAF which didn’t have any dedicated SEAD/DEAD aircraft in service needed a missile with the major sensors and smarts built into the weapon.
Next the method of attack is different with 5 different preprogrammed attack modes all utilising a zoom climb. When the missile is attacking a radar site rather then coming in on the strong horizontal sidelobes that will in effect blink on and off it will track and home the weaker vertical lobes which will always be visible.
Whilst many of people have talked about the loiter mode I don’t think it has been used much (if at all) with the direct attack mode more usually being used with the programmed in zoom climb.
I have a further hunch that with the launch profile of ALARM that radar operators might not as readily realise they under attack.
What British engines? We’re putting Finnish Wärtsilä diesel engines in CVF . . . just like Mistral has.
In recent years the Wartsilla diesel range has become a defacto standard for the Royal Navy.
How does the KC-30 compare to the KC-10?
Well the most notable difference came up during the RAF selection process…
With the VC10 operating out of Brize Norton and the a330 launching from Tolouse in France the a330 could stay an extra hour on station over the North Sea.
1. It wasn’t just the Osprey but regardless your point is moot. It could not refuel all aircraft in inventory. Very simple. No wiggle room. Clearly an army of lawyers, aviation experts and procurement specialists disagree with you.
Clearly EADS did not have the aircraft that best met the original RFP. We shall see what round 2 brings but if its at all like what the draft of it is then I would say that EADS does not have the tanker that best suits the air force’s needs.
Well it could refuel all the types that were requested, there was no requirement to be able to refuel the entire inventory. For that matter the aircraft could be adapted to fill these gaps anyway.
Airbus offered the aircraft they thought could win, at least it was real aircraft which has flown now rather then the paper Frankentanker.
Yes the V-22 IS an aircraft. And it is only speculation in the media that it was because the KC-30 could not refuel the V-22 because it is not able to fly slow enough that it FAILED TO MEET said requirement. In fact it is the opposite. The KC-30 is unable to perform emergency breakaway procedures because it is unable to accelerate/climb/fly FAST enough.
BS. IT was ENCOURAGED & REQUESTED to do so!
And failing to prove that the KC-30 could means FAILING TO MEET said requirement. NG/EADS even admitted that it couldn’t do it & proposed a ‘fix’ that it claimed would enable it to do so. CLAIMING to have a ‘fix’ for an identified shortcoming isn’t good enough.
There was NO requirement to fuel the V22 in the previous contest, in the end EADS offered a fix anyway…but they didn’t have to as they were not asked to.
If a V22 wants to tank up the Marine Corp C130J are far better suited for the job.