I came across this the other day. Read the sole comment @ the end, it made me chuckle :D.
Yeah there is an irony there 😀
Of course if Indonesia start licence building them it brings up some interesting options for BAE Systems. BAE Systems will still have to provide the high end technology stuff like CMS, electronics and system integration for any licence built ship. Maybe they can offer Indonesian built examples on the market at a significantly more attractive price. The Indonesian yard does the steel bashing and we supply the above mentioned systems, integration work and through life support.
If the local Sigma is getting VL MICA switching the Nahkoda Ragam to the same missile is a very happy and logical solution.
Indonesia is getting a bargain!
This is another link that confirms Indonesian in deep negotiations to finalise Nahkoda Ragam procurement
http://m.tempo.co/read/news/2013/01/16/078454914/RI-Minta-Peluru-Kendali-Kapal-Inggris-Direparasi?view=fullsiteSorry in Indonesian. However the article stated that one main point that still under negotiation is the replacement for VL Sea Cat on c. Seems Indonesian Mindef negotiate that for the asking price they also want the builders replace VL Sea Cat with VL system Indonesian want as replacement. The article stated ‘upgrading’ the missiles, however since the system it self is already out of production, it’s a diplomatic statement saying replacement of the system.
Other sources indicated VL Mica is being targeted as replacement system of VL Sea Cat.
A VL variant of Sea Cat certainly would need replacing 😀 The Nahkoda Ragam class is fitted with VL Seawolf. VL MICA as a replacement makes plenty of sense, Sea Ceptor is a number of years away from deployment and MICA is designed to be launched from the Sea Wolf VL silos.
Well there is a way for the Australian army to plug that gap…send their recruiters to the UK!
Britain is laying off 5300 soldiers!:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21134353
If the Australian MOD put in a concerted effort to recruit in the UK (I’m sure they have contacts in the British army) I have a hunch a fair few would fancy moving themselves and family to warmer climbs! Australia would get trained soldiers who speak the same language from a doctrinally similar army.
Look at the state of her hull!
Doesn’t look like it has had any preventative attention in a long time! Covered in gunk and barnacles!
To be honest the best way to lay up a ship is to pull her out of the water, leaving it to site with little to no preventative maintenance is a recipe for disaster!



I believe she was theoretically in non-active reserve, but yes since 1989 she has sat in harbour as a parts hulk for ARA Hercules. She apparently never worked properly after she was severely damaged by a mine in 1975.
It is rather telling in that it confirms the dire state of the Argentine navy.
Well the picture says it all really! The ARA SantÃsima Trinidad has sunk in dock!
With only a caretaker crew it looks like her material state got the better of her.

I ‘m not gonna give names , it ‘s not important . It was at the time when Rafale bashing was a daily game for many …
Funny how things turns out , 3 wars already for the “pedestrian bomb truck” and … nothing coming for the “outstanding” F-35 for the years to come .
Cheers .
That makes me chuckle, the very same people who were complaining about daily Rafale bashing…had no problem bashing Typhoon on a daily basis.
Pot
Kettle
Black
Ahhh!
Good news for Portsmouth maybe?
For me Obi Wan that is the critical factor if Type-26 is going to be the new Type-12 Leander and an actual success on the export market! It must be adaptable to whatever sensor or weapons fit the customer wants! Actually further from that if it is going to take on the MEKO it has to be adaptable when it comes to propulsion as well!
Of course it should be noted that all the equipment being lifted off Type-23 are next generation systems as yet to enter service. Also of interest is apparently Type-26 will get a new main gun (more then likely a 5 inch) so the RN can husband the remaining 4.5 inch turrets and ammunition for the Type-45. A very sensible move in my opinion as it extends the 4.5 inch service life as much possible for the Type-45 whilst inducting an affordable off the shelf solution for the the Type-26.
I was a fan of the original F/A-18 Hornet concept – although I would have preferred to have seen the F-18L come to fruition – minus its heavy, un-needed and unwanted carrier-compatibility design features, which would have made for a lighter, cheaper and far better air-to-air combat capability!!
I believe a concerted effort was made to sell F-18L to Canada and Australia, whilst it would of had better performance I believe they preferred the closer commonality to USN and USMC examples. Also the heavier duty construction whilst reducing performance had the advantage of increased life operating purely from a runway.
It’s all nice & good to be able to integrate some bits on a plane, or manufacture some parts for it, but this is VERY far from being able to design a successful fighter project from A to Z. Losing sight of the overal design concept of a fighter plane means that you get incapable of building one when you really need to. Besides, programs like fighter planes allow your technological base to master most of the very high tech fields (propulsion, aerodynamics, electronics, etc etc).
IMHO it is better to have a fighter that lags a bit behind (and will still be enough for 99% of the wars you guys will get involved in) and master all the technologies involved than master a few of technologies within a much bigger program. & right now the F35 isn’t superior to anything that’s actually in service…
Considering the price of the first UK F35 was higher than the price the USMC paid for the whole harrier fleet + spares, I think bang-for-the-buck wise your main point is ludicrous.
Nic
Firstly if the UK wanted to develop a manned fighter it still could. The UK has know-how in all the key areas and Typhoon is frankly based on UK R&D from avionics through to engines.
Secondly what does the price we sold Harrier GR7/9 to the Americans got to do with the fact that the F35B outperforms the legacy platform.
With 2010 SSDR the treasury held a gun to the RAF’s head and said a fast jet had to go, it made more sense to retire Harrier however uncomfortable that is for people. How is stating the fact that F35B outperforms the legacy platforms it is replacing ludicrous?! Even if it hadn’t got the chop it was till on the way out. The price we got is of course less then the first F35B development airframe, the USMC were buying the Harrier airframes for their component parts and we didn’t have any other buyer. Harrier was cut to save on the operating costs, what we got for the airframes is immaterial.