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  • in reply to: F-22 Doing A Cobra Maneuver #2554788
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    Yeah and it’s not even to the stage of developement the F119 was fifteen years ago. Fifteen years ago the F119 had already flown on two different fighters and on one of them flew with vectoring thrust nozzles and demonstrated them. When has the AL-41 done any of that?

    Do you read aviation news? Russia had almost completed the Al-41 tests.

    in reply to: F-22 Doing A Cobra Maneuver #2554814
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    Really? When did the Fulcrum and Flanker start packing stealthy nozzles?

    The Mig-31 cannot fly at Mach 2.3 for 30 minutes without afterburners.

    How do you base the MiG-31 uses afterburner?
    the yield of the D30F-6 is 15510 kg of thrust slightly worst than the F-22, see this fact the F-22 the F-119 has a yield of 155 KN and the D30 of 152 KN, the Raptor can not supercruise at 2.35.

    If the Mig-31 can supercruise at mach 2.35 and the F-22 can not tell me you have the MiG-31 manual where it gives you the time it can supercruise at Mach 1.5? that is classifed data even in the F-22

    Do you know why the Russians are making the Su-35BM with new engines of more than 14 tonns of thrust?

    in reply to: F-22 Doing A Cobra Maneuver #2554823
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    If it was mere supersonic speed they wanted they didnt have to spend the millions and billions in making the F-119 to give those levels of thrust at dry power ( they produce enough thrust at dry power then many do at wet power) , they could have just built themselves an interceptor like the Mig-31 , mig-25 , but they wanted to add those qualities of dedicated interceptors into ALL ASPECT fighters like the Su-27 f-15 etc , and being able to supercruise at mach 1.7 at 45K gives the best of both worlds ( with time it should go up as engines are made more performing ).

    What is a Supercruise engine? Russia already had the AL-41 it is a very powerful engine too

    in reply to: F-22 Doing A Cobra Maneuver #2554826
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    By that measure then I guess the US has loads of supercruise experience seeing how the SR-71 supercruised at Mach 3.2 for nearly four times as long as the Mig-31 could supercruise at Mach 2.3 huh? Not to mention all the time that was racked up by the Hustler supercruising.

    true but none SR-71 flew over territory patrolled by MiG-31 tell me why?

    in reply to: F-22 Doing A Cobra Maneuver #2554842
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    For the umpteenth time it aint supercruise because supercruise is a term that is used when the engine doesnt go into Afterburner as in the case of a FIGHTER . in that regard the sr-71 can also supercruise but the definition of supercruise is on dry power alone and i dont think the mig-31 can do mach 2+ on dry power!!!

    no doubt , both vert manuverable , might come down to simply tactics and who has the better position going into he merge!!

    It supercruises because it cruises at supersonic speed the definition is correct, now if you want to claim it supercruises at full afterburner or at military power i do not know how the MiG-31 achieves that, but definitively the MiG-31 supercruises how it does it? well…we have to ask in the future if we can get the MiG-31 manual or an statement by MAPO which clarifies for us that matter

    in reply to: F-22 Doing A Cobra Maneuver #2554856
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    “I don’t think it’s a matter of him being capable of understanding I just don’t think he wants to unless it fits his world view. You can throw endless amounts of rock-solid evidence at him and he’ll continue to grasp at any straw no matter how rediculous to remain in denial.”

    ***Ding Ding Ding*** Give this man a prize! You hit the nail directly on the head with that one. 🙂

    He has dug himself too far in to admit defeat; it’s just human pride not to usually give in so easily, or at all. Living in denial is a sad thing to see. It’s an emotional wall of self-deception they put up, because they don’t want their pride / feelings hurt if that wall is taken / torn down. If they think of this happening, it then gives them a sense of self-weakness, and no strong hold within themselves to build a foundation upon.

    Okay, enough of the Psychology 101 for me. 😛

    Here’s a decent video of the F-22 Raptor:

    http://www.metacafe.com/watch/107561/f_22_raptor/

    Check out the time between 31 seconds and 52 seconds, it shows the F-22 hovering at 90 degrees, then doing a back flip drop. I’m sure we’re gonna see a lot more to come as this enters more air shows. 🙂

    And remember, the F-22 has superior (the best in the world, in fact) thrust to weight ratio over any Flank, Mig-29, Rafale or Eurofighter Typhoon; this will also help it in maneuvering at slow and fast speeds.

    Another thing to remember, is that many thought the Mig-29 was superior all-around in maneuverability compared to the F-16; they were wrong. A pilot that flew both aircraft saw the difference and truth for himself. He says the Mig-29 is more maneuverable at 200 knot speeds and BELOW; whereas the F-16 is more maneuverable at 220+ knot speeds! It’s much more important to be going FAST in a real WVR combat situation, not slow.

    So, going by this, I bet the F-22 will whoop any Flanker or Mig even in WVR also (as it will totally dominate them in BVR without a doubt), as long as it’s going fast. 🙂

    The F-22’s Superior TWR + TVC + Superior avionics all-around + Superior AESA radar + AIM-9X = Good bye Flanker! 🙂

    It is not logic compare the Su-35Bm and MiG-29 with a fifth generation fighter however the Thrust vectoring nozzles fitted to the MiG-29OVT and Su-35BM are more advanced than the 2D thrust vectoring nozzles fitted to the F-22.

    The MiG-31 can supercruise for 30 minutes at Mach 2.3, undoutedly Russia is not behind in technology in what respects supercruise and supermanoeuvrability.

    At eye ball range the Su-35BM and MiG-29OVT have same odds or even better chances of beating the F-22.

    in reply to: Your Design #2555280
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    This is the helicopter i would like to make i hope you like it, it`s a tandem twin seats stepped cockpit Ka-50 with ventral cannon

    in reply to: Russia Cuts Back on Fifth Generation #2555397
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    :p
    Check: https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/rs.htmlRussian internal debt is 12.9% of GDP and the foreign debgt is 31 % from GDP. That’s a total of 43.9% of GDP :p . Any country in the world has a large debt(internal+external) and US debt is not as high compared to the GDP (US ranks 35 as thed percentage of total debt relative to GDP). In your mind, probably Russia is far far richer that Japan, since Japan debt is 160 % from thits GDP, while Russian debt is only 43.9% :p.

    The relative improvement of Russian economy came from high oil and gas prices. In fact judging from the exports, Russia look like a 3rd world country (oil, gas and timber make more than 80% of total!)
    OK than, please do me a favor and name some electronic components that are not made inside US from the following: F 22, F 15, F 16, AWACS, AMRAAM, Sidewinder, HARM…

    Russia builds amost any modern technology, what happens is Russia at the moment can not compete in the international markets in many areas, Russia has car industry, electronic industry and software industry, Russia has space industry and aircraft industry, the problem Russia has is commercialize it`s technology and update it, Russia will probably reach a level like France in less than 15 years, Russia is not destine to be a third world country in fact it is not, Russia only suffered economic stagnation and up to a degree technological outdating of its industry, nevertheless for someting they say

    the seven most industrialized countries + Russia

    in reply to: Russia Cuts Back on Fifth Generation #2555794
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    it was probably a figment of someone’s imagination base on some info they picked up from a forum or something like that!!!

    I guess so because this other link specialized in military news from Russia does not report anything like that in fact they report totally different news
    http://www.mosnews.com/news/2006/09/30/rusbombers.shtml

    in reply to: Russia Cuts Back on Fifth Generation #2555804
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    September 29, 2006: Russia has now decided that it will fund only one fifth generation fighter project. Over the Summer, the government announced it would pay for the development of two fifth generation fighters, to compete with the American F-22 and F-35. The MiG company was to develop a “light” fighter (roughly comparable with the U.S. F-35), while the Sukhoi company developed the heavier (F-22 class) fighter. A new, thrust vectoring, version of the AL-41F jet engine is being developed for these fighters. New electronics systems are under development as well. Now the MiG company has been told that they will not receive any government development funds. The MiG project can continue, but MiG will have to pay for it until something impressive enough is produced, that will encourage the government to kick in some financial support.

    The most frequently asked question people have about this sort of thing is, “what’s a jet generation.” Simple, it’s just the periods during which jet fighter technology made major advances. Thus the first generation jet fighters were those produced during World War II and through the late 1940s. The best examples of these are the U.S. F-86 and the Russian MiG-15. The second generation got going in the early 1950s, and produced aircraft like the U.S. F-104 and the Russian MiG-21. The third generation followed within a decade, producing the U.S. F-4 and the Russian MiG-23. The fourth generation arrived in the 1970s and 80s with the F-15, F-16, F-18, Russian MiG-29, Su-27 and French Mirage-2000. The fifth generation includes the F-22, F-35, and whatever the Russians come up with. The Eurofighter and Rafael are often called Generation 4.5. Russian fifth generation fighter developments were halted when the Soviet Union disintegrated in 1991. Actually, all development work on new fighters, by everyone, slowed down in the 1990s. But work on the F-22, F-35, Eurofighter and Rafael continued, and those aircraft became, in roughly that order, the most advanced fighter aircraft available today.

    The new Russian aircraft will have to provide some big advances in electronics or stealth to earn a place in the fifth generation. Otherwise, the Russians are just developing more generation 4.5 aircraft. But if the Russians can provide inexpensive new fighters, they will find a market for them.

    China is also taking a stab at developing a fifth generation fighter. But given the state of their current technology, and the rate at which their aviation manufacturing capabilities are progressing, it is more likely that the Chinese will be contenders for the Sixth Generation (which will probably be unmanned.)
    link

    I think that link is wrong i can not find the same news in Russian military news websites such as LENTA
    http://lenta.ru/mil/

    I guess the information is utterly wrong

    in reply to: ranking of beautiful aircraft by nation and epoch #2555882
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    This are the 10 commercial military aircraft i like the most

    Number one is the An-124
    http://www.arianespace.com/site/images/st12_1_lg.jpg

    Number 2 is the Lockheed L-1011 tristar

    http://www.raf.mod.uk/rafbrizenorton/images/gallery/tristar_10.jpg

    Number 3 is the Embraer 145 AWACS

    http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/s100b_argus/images/S100BArgus_5.jpg

    Number 4 is An-71

    http://worldweapon.ru/images/sam/an71/an71_01.jpg

    Number 5 is Lockheed C-5

    http://www.ilexikon.com/images/1/16/Galaxy_01.jpg

    Number 6 is C-141
    http://seals.longboys.net/C-141-Starlifter_02.jpg

    Number 7 is the C-17

    http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/c_17.jpg

    Number 8 is the A-50

    http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/airdef/a-50-mains_p1.jpg

    Number eight is the Boeing 757
    http://www.nouki.ch/Avions/Img/boeing-c32.jpg

    number 9 is the ASTOR
    http://www.thebestlinks.com/images/thumb/6/6d/250px-RAYTHEON_ASTOR.jpg
    Number 10 is the VC-10 tanker

    http://www.drivearchive.co.uk/xplanes/mchugh/mvc103.jpg

    in reply to: ranking of beautiful aircraft by nation and epoch #2556142
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    Yep. Accentuate the negative!

    It happens sometimes ugliness and power combined result in a weird beauty.

    In the 1990s we saw the tendency towards stealth and more canards
    From that decade i like mostly only the Eurofighter, F-18E/F, Su-33KUB, Su-34 and F-22, however there were more aircraft flown, i will tell you what aircraft i feel were the 10 most beautiful aircraft in the 1990s

    Number one is the F-22 that first flew in 1997

    http://www.1stfighter.org/F22/27FS/1stF22May05-Ashton.jpg

    number 2 is the Eurofighter that first flew in 1994
    http://www.flygplan.info/images/eurofighter_6.jpg

    Number three is the F-18E that had its first flight in 1995

    http://www.jetsrc.com/modelos/f-18e/fotosGrandes/F-18F.jpg

    Number four is the Su-32/34 that first flew in 1990

    http://www.eroplan.boom.ru/photo/su-34/su-34-2.jpg
    Number five is the F-23 that first flew in 1990

    http://www.voodoo.cz/yf23/b/yf2313.jpg
    Number six is the S-37 Berkut
    http://www.enemyforces.com/aircraft/s37n.jpg

    Number seven is the J-10
    http://www.sinodefence.com/airforce/fighter/j101a.jpg

    Number eight is the X-31

    http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/x-31-EC94-42478-15.jpg

    Number nine is the F-2

    http://www.air-defense.net/dossier/139/intro139.jpg

    number 10 is the Su-33KUB

    http://www.www.airwar.ru/photo/su33/su33ub_3.jpg

    in reply to: ranking of beautiful aircraft by nation and epoch #2556518
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    I do agree that SAAB has great aircraft, i am also a fan of swedish aviation, i might not like a lot the JAS-39 but still i think it is a nice looking design, the other SAAB aircraft are okay i feel they are nice looking too.

    In Helicopters for example i do like a lot Italian and French helos, Russian helicopters i feel are not as nice looking they might be functional or record holders but few have the delicacy of such designs as the Dauphin, except the Ka-60, few have the beauty of the Augusta A129; the Mi-8 and Ka-32 look more like trucks than delicate flying machines.
    The Americans have some nice looking helicopters too but nothing i would call special except the RH-66 Comache.

    Here are the Helicopters i like the most

    First i will tell you my 10 favorite gunship helicopters

    Number one is the A-129 International

    http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/agusta/images/agusta4.jpg
    Number 2 is the Ka-50

    http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/ka-50-hokum.jpg
    number 3 would be the RH-66

    http://www.acme-worldwide.com/Images/Acme_Project_Comanche_Heli.jpg
    number 4 would be the AH-64

    http://worldweapon.ru/images/vertuski/ah64/ah64_03.jpg

    Number five is the Z-10

    http://mil.jschina.com.cn/huitong/helo/Z-10g.jpg

    number six is the Eurocopter Tiger

    http://www.military.cz/international/air/eurocopter/tiger_uht_infl.jpg

    Number 7 is the AH-1 Cobra
    http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/images/ah-1_cobra_helo-full.jpg

    number eight is the Mi-28
    http://www.rusalma.org/newspaper/NSIM200412_files/Mi28.jpg

    number nine is the Ah-56 Cheyenne
    http://www.internetage.com/cartercopters/othercraft/ah-56a-2.jpg and 10 is the OH-1 Ninja

    http://avia.russian.ee/foto/japan.jpg

    in reply to: Tomcat thread #2556524
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    Truely amazing that after 36 years of service , it is still widely considered to be better performing ( a new fresh of the block that is not a old airframe) then the aircraft it is replacing , what else could the designers and engineers want as a proof of their excellence .

    I think you love too much the F-14, the F-18A is far better in performance and agility than the F-14A, the newest F-14D is little bit better in acceleration and agility but nothing outstanding, i do not know it`s turn rate, but the F-18E is fully armed with AIM-9X, Helmet mounted sights, has some degree of stealthiness and carries large amounts of AIM-120s, no F-14 had even the AIM-120 operation, the AIM-54 in US service did not achieve a kill.

    My personal opinion is the F-18E is a good aircraft, will beat the F-14 thanks to the AIM-9X, can fight any rival even the Su-30 or the Chinese J-10, it is as agile as the F-18A but carries more warload.

    In my opinion the F-18F and F-14 are equaly matched in terms of aesthetics, in weaponry is better in avionics is better and in terms of agility is more less as agile as the F-18A which was a difficult opponent for all the F-14A that were the main F-14 variant deployed and built.

    I am sad the F-14 was retired, it was one of the most beautiful aircraft ever but no way i think the F-18E/F are inferior as a weapons platform

    in reply to: ranking of beautiful aircraft by nation and epoch #2556654
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    Well, you’re right MiG-23. That’s why i just posted what i thought were beautiful aircraft. And if you noticed the trend, i like the tailless delta design over all others. It just leaves a lot less clutter (and by ‘clutter’ i mean less surfaces, namely the horizontal tailplane). ANY delta usually wins out over other more common shapes to me. It leaves lines a lot more cleaner, which is what i find more attractive. These new generations of canrded deltas don’t cut it for me either. Typhoon is rather ungainly, having an ugly box for an intake slung underneath a deeeeeep forward fuselage and these teeny tiny canards that almost look as if they would serve no purpose. Rafale looks nice, but i liked the prototype better. Gripen is fairly attractive, until it is seen from the front (it’s not the dihedraled canards, it’s again the boxy looking intakes that lose it for me – they should’ve been softer).

    And it’s not like i don’t like a bunch of others listed here. Just that i don’t like them as much as the ones i mentioned for the reasons i stated above. I mean, i find the Tu-160 and B-1B attractive – but they’re of a blended body design which i find appealing. A few of the rest you listed (the BUFF, the B-47, the Tu-16) are like taking two sticks and putting them together. That’s not what i find attractive.

    STADAWIM

    I also like canarded and delta aircraft up to a point, delta wing tailess designs are sometimes quit beautiful the LCA and the Mirage 2000 but i prefer the MIrage 4000 and Rafale over the tailess delta, once i read that aircraft design is a science but also an art, an art because even despite that physical principals and enginering solution are overwhelmingly ruling an aircraft design up to a point it has an artistic input, because you can get several similar solution for one specific problem.

    In the 1980s the canard delta configuration became popular, and canards became a fashion that later up to a degree thrust vectoring made it superflous.

    In the 1980s the most beautiful aircraft that first flew to my point of view was the Rafale

    http://www.franknoort.nl/others/gfx/21102004/5386-rafale-florennes.jpg

    I guess this has been on of the most beautiful designs ever flown, its first flight occurred on July 4 1986, in Europe canard delta designs have been quit studied. The next in the list is and number 2 as the most beautiful aircraft flown in the 1980s to my taste was the IAI Lavi

    http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/KleinBernhard/4921L-1.jpg

    It is a fact that as aircraft design became more sophisticated less combat aircraft prgrams were carried out, in the 1950s and even sixties there were more aircraft projects going on, but as aircraft became more complex fewer and fewer programs were financed and even fewer came to fruition as operational aircraft, two of the most beautiful aircraft were cancelled, the IAI Lavi and the Mirage 4000, even the US cancelled the F-20.

    number three i would say is the AMX first flown in 1984
    http://passionavionsdechasse.ifrance.com/passionavionsdechasse/photos/amx/amx%20002%20proto.jpg

    number fourth is the JAS-39 first flown in 1988

    http://members.lycos.nl/hurk6/hpbimg/Jet%20Noise%20JAS-39.jpg
    In the 1980s more Asian designs came to bear fruit among them the exquisitely beautiful Ching Kuo, i feel this is fifth most beautiful aircraft from the 1980s.

    http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/ching/images/ching-kuo_idf1.jpg
    in the 1980s aother Asian aircraft was flown, this was in the form of a trainer, it was the T-4 first flown in 1985, i think this is the six most beautiful combat aircraft flown in the 1980s

    http://www.tnsfactory.net/m_aircraft/jasdf_t4/t4_23_672_03l.jpg

    the seven is another Asian design it is the J-8II first flown in 1984

    http://afwing.com/images/j8/j8/j8ii-9.JPG

    number eight is IA-63 first flown in 1984

    http://www.efn.uncor.edu/departamentos/aero/Imagenes/pampa.jpg

    number nine is the F-20 first flown in 1982
    http://www.edwards.af.mil/gallery/images/yeager-planes/f20-1_072.jpg

    and number 10 is the X-29 first flown in 1984

    http://www.edwards.af.mil/gallery/html_pgs/images/xseries/x29a-1_072.jpg

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