BradburgerAnd don’t for one minute confuse ‘Uncle Sam’ with the majority of the US people.
They are the ones on our side!
Cheers
Paul
BradburgerJust about sums it all up.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/36642662
And the leave campaign still continue to impose upon us their negative spirit, and negative arguments.
But a someone said to me “Their argument is over. Let them continue to waste their time and breath – our job has been done!”
Cheers
Paul
Bradburgerhttp://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-36629540
Fortunately injuries appear to be minor, not so for PA.28, G-SVEA.
Glad to hear there were no fatalities.
Pity about the PA-28!
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Paul
BradburgerAre you ******* serious?
You value the opinion of a man who thinks that NATO is one of the two most evil organisations in the world?
Oh, I forgot, he’s an ‘expert’!
However, it seems people on the reman side are rather selective when they chose to what their ‘experts’ predicted, or have had to say!
But as this man was at the heart of the American Government whilst the ‘Cold War’ was still a reality, plus the fact that he was an highly experienced economist and journalist, I think he has a fair idea how these things actually work, and worth listening to.
And did I say I value his opinion?
(It would appear that the a good proportion of the pro EU people are all superb psychics, knowing that I’m a racist, a bigot, xenophobe and whatever else, purely because of my or anyone else’s dislike of the EU!)
And I wasn’t suggesting you or anyone else ‘value his opinion’, but I would certainly hope you look and listen to what he has to say and make your own judgments, rather than in this case, dismissing him because of your own opinion of NATO.
But then again, it’s beginning to come clear that the majority of the pro EU camp seem to value a newspaper headline more, and treat it as fact!
Basically, they can’t see the wood for the trees!
Cheers
Paul
BradburgerDon’t try and weasel out of admitting the truth about people like Farage – the majority of votes to leave came from older voters and the permanently disenfranchised who have the mistaken belief that somehow being out of the EU is an alternative to getting off their arses and working. The EU has managed over the period of its existence to stop Europe from descending into that endless cycle of war and destruction that has been the one common feature of its sad history since the end of the Roman Empire. You little Englanders want to go back to a period when the petty rivalries and fascist leanings of the various European governments gave us such wonderful events as the Hundred Years War, the Seven Years War, the bloodshed of the Napoleonic Wars, the Franco-Prussian War, and, to top of all those bloody events, WW1 and WW2. It was the sheer horror of WW2 that led to the push for European economic union. That particularly bloody event was excessive even by the standards of Europe and now we see the same fascist rabble rousing behaviour repeated by the likes of Farage and that upper class twit Boris Johnson.
YAWN, YAWN.
I really hope you are proud of yourselves because you have managed to set in train the undoing of what years of serious effort to avoid repeats of all those endless wars had achieved.
Quite the contrary (Mystic) Malcolm.
How about some real perspective and opinion from Paul Craig Roberts (American economist, author, and former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan Administration) on what our exit of the EU means.
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2016/06/24/471995/Brexit-EU-WWIII-Paul-Craig-Roberts
Fact is, all you and your ilk are worried about is their own little world and their money, and your perception what the EU has done to help us, and make Europe and the world a better and safer place, all at the expense of other people’s democracy!
Now surely that’s a far bigger act of selfishness and burden of guilt to carry on one’s shoulders!
Paul
(Little Englander)
BradburgerSpeculation that article 50 had to be approved by both the Scottish government and the Northern Irish assembly before it can be enacted. That might be interesting.
Or: –
Theoretically, there is nothing to stop a British Government unilaterally withdrawing from the EU by simply repealing the 1972 European Communities Act. Article 50 compels only the EU to seek a negotiation, not the withdrawing member state.
That might be interesting also!
Cheers
Paul
BradburgerThe vote to leave was an incredibly stupid decision by old people clinging to an imagined past. No thought for the future and fixed in the dubious politics of that modern day Oswald Mosley – Nigel Farage. What these idiots have effectively voted for is a collapsing economy but then that always happens when you leave the decision to the political equivalent of skinheads and football hooligans. The politics of people who hate anything foreign and forget that the glory days of Britain ended in 1939 when the empire built on cheap local labour and theft of foreign resources and territory by military conquest was effectively ended. Now it appears that Farage’s followers are giving strength to other fascists like Le Pen in France and Wilders in Holland. Did anyone who voted to leave the EU really want to see a replay of what bought Hitler to power in the 1930s – that by the way was another result of a free vote in Germany by equally ill-informed people. Hopefully there will be sufficient political backlash given the closeness of the vote to force a rethink. Certainly this will force Scotland out of the union as well as Northern Ireland and if that happens it will just be a diminished England with an economy based on foreign tourists watching endless anachronistic royal ceremonies. I hope that these selfish elderly people who voted for this mindless result are happy because they have effectively stuffed Britain.
What a selfish and disingenuous statement Malcolm.
Your claim about ‘old people clinging to an imagined past’ is completely false, considering people of all ages voted to exit the EU.
(Whatever you definiton or thoughts of an ‘imagined past are’, at least they knew what the country was like before our entry into what was to become the EU).
And the comparison of Nigel Farage to Oswald Mosley is a rather strange and confused one.
Those that voted to remain in the EU are voting for something that (despite what it claims or is seen to be) is a bullying, undemocratic, and corrupt institution.
Whilst the EU may not be seen or regarded as fascist, the above are certainly fascist traits, so you can see that your Mosley/Farage link is indeed, rather flawed.
“The best political weapon is the weapon of terror. Cruelty commands respect. Men may hate us. But, we don’t ask for their love; only for their fear.”
Heinrich Himmler
“The people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders. All you have to do is tell them that they are in danger of being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.”
Hermann Goering
Sounds rather familiar, doesn’t it!
Just as in the summer of 1940, the people of Britain have proved once again, they will not be intimidated by bullies from across the channel (or for the pedants, the north sea), or by their own Government and people.
It would appear we are not (and never have been) a nation of quitters, despite what people would have you believe.
Cheers
Paul
(AKA. a ‘Little Englander’)
Bradburger“The grey hairs have taken over the asylum”.
According to Billy Bragg: –
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36628398
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Paul
BradburgerI’m almost drooling!!
Just seen this on the Meier Motors FB page.
Looking very nice indeed!
Congratulations to all at Meier Motors for another great restoration.
Cheers
Paul
BradburgerReds en route to Goodwood, and Spitfire IX TA805 from Biggin to Portsmouth and back, about half an hour or so ago.
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Paul
BradburgerWatching the Dow index slide and wondering how many thousands this is costing me (but not in reality since I’m not selling today…so it’s no different to any market drop caused by any number of things..Putin or some mid–east tyrant behaving badly or some investment banker fiddling the market to playoff a yacht or divorce)….
Congratulations to the UK public for making a courageous decision.
Whether it’s a good decision long term who knows…
but in the meantime it’s better to do something than to constantly complain about things and do nothing to correct them.
Thank you.
That’s probably the most rational and pragmatic few words that I’ve seen today!
But I have to ask, are you an expert? 😉
(Tongue held firmly in cheek!)
Cheers
Paul
BradburgerIt certainly has.
Racism, xenophobia, misinformation and downright LIES have plunged the UK into an abyss of uncertainty.
critter592,
I see you use the words misinformation and LIES (along with the ever so easily applied labels of racism and xenophobia) to those who wanted, and voted to leave the EU.
Please, please, please, do some research for yourself about the history of the EU and it’s real purpose (as a historian yourself, surely you can see the value in this), and it’s not so difficult when the information is at your fingertips.
(I actually posted lots of factual history on the Brexit thread, and NOT from the leave or remain campaign just to clarify – you might be surprised who is telling the LIES.
But with the greatest respect, if the decision for us to remain in the EU had been taken by the electorate instead, would it have been any different?
The EU is NOT democratic, despite what you might believe, or are told!
Can you tell me if we had remained, just what laws and plans the EU had for us in 5, 10, or 50 years time?
Decisions that our parliament, and therefore the UK electorate, have no power or influence over?
In case you are not aware, EU Law overrules our own parliamentary laws.
So if the EU were to decide in 10 or 20 years time that you, as someone with a legitimate and important interest, could no longer explore or research air crash sites in the UK, who do you challenge your right to do so?
One thing’s for certain.
There’d be no one in Brussels, Strasbourg, or wherever else the EU decides to base themselves, listening!
Entirely hypothetical perhaps, and yes, probably ‘crystal ball’ territory, but something worth thinking about when attacking the outcome of the referendum.
Cheers
Paul
BradburgerPaul,
Our sovereignty is more at threat now than it was yesterday!. Yesterday the chances of us joining Schengen were nil. Today….seeing what actually really genuinely happened in Switzerland, Norway and Iceland we might find ourselves having to join it to keep our trading arrangement with our former partners.
So we have gone from nil chance of having to accept free movement to a 50/50 chance of having to accept it. Thats your new sovereignty package lad. Enjoy!
I don’t think so!
You can waffle the same old rhetoric you like, and tell us black is blue, and blue is black.
If the failed and broken EU pipedream goes Tango Uniform, which is looking increasingly likely, there will be no EU, and therefore no Schengen.
The fact is, we now hold the trump cards (maybe in the future there’s a pun there), because the EU does not want to implode on itself, which is what is already beginning to happen.
Jonesy old chap, it’s time for a holiday.
Indeed.
Preferably at the South Pole!
Cheers
Paul
BradburgerI’m not sure what Sweden want 🙂
Most probably a Sexit!
Cheers
Paul
BradburgerPaul,
What crystal ball is required?. Now the news is saying that £100bn has been wiped off the value of the FTSE 100 companies and Farage has already reneged on one of the main promises Leave made to re-invest money ‘saved’ from Europe.
Enjoy your Brexit!
Jonesy,
Nice of you to start ramping up the blame, and trying to make those that voted to keep mine, your’s, and every other UK citizens parliamentary sovereignty safe for the future.
I’m sure you would be feeling guilt and blame if I was to remind you of what you had given up for the peoples of the UK, by remaining a member of the EU!
Of course though, you wouldn’t, because you told me that sovereignty is a myth!
Cheers
Paul
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