This was filmed at Duxford down to the far right of the Tank Bank. It’s during the finale at the September 2010 Battle of Britain 70th Anniversary Airshow with the Brian Smith at the controls of MH434. It was magical, he knew exactly what he was doing.
Indeed.
Nothing dodgy or dangerous there. :confused:
Definitely Duxford, and the ‘popping back’ noises are the other Spitfires bringing the power back for landing as mentioned.
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Paul
Not a confirmation I’m afraid, but could it be P8531 or P8568, or even P8658 perhaps?
P8531 IIb CBAF MXII 24MU 22-4-41 SF Northolt 1-6-41 1CAACU 18-3-42 stalled crashed Camer Farm Gravesend Kent CE 23-6-42
P8568 IIb CBAF MXII 12MU 25-5-41 118S 22-6-41 engine failed force-landed overturned nr Heathfield Kent 14-7-41 132S 12-10-41 53OTU 7-5-42 61OTU 27-5-44 SOC 23-11-44
P8658 IIb CBAF MXII24MU 11-5-41 616S 25-5-41 controls jammed on return from sweep force-landed crashed Heathfield Kent 14-7-41 SOC 22-7-41
(I note that in the case of P8531, the accident was in 1942).
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Paul
Just had a quick look at P81, or P85 serialled aircraft in ‘Spitfire – The History’.
In both those serial ranges, it would make it a MK.IIb. (Hence the cannon bulges). If it’s the former serial, then it would appear to have been a conversion.
Not much help I know, but I’m taking a look through to see the range to see if I can perhaps identify the aircraft.
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Paul
Thanks for the Heads Up Michael.
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Paul
Thanks for that!
Actually had that as one of my favorites for a while now.
Here’s a couple more you might like : –
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Paul
FWIW, I have seen a website that states that the outer wings tapered from 23018 to 23009, but no references are given. It was an old webpage which promised forthcoming updates. These updates never seemed to arrive, so I guess no further info is available from that source.
That site was the Incomplete Guide To Airfoil Usage.
Useful site, but as you say, shame it hasn’t been updated for a long time.
CeBro, when you say manual, I assume you mean A.P 2062 A & C (available as a reprint)?
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Paul
Thanks.
Link doesn’t seem to work though!
Try this one :-
http://www.aopa.org/News-and-Video/All-News/2014/January/Pilot/Dream-come-true.aspx
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Paul
Many thanks to all those who contribute to this thread from me also.
Have a great 2014!
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Paul
It might be worth tracking down this issue of the much missed Classic Aircraft Mag.
Septic.
Looks like you can get this issue (and other back copies) as a download : –
EDIT
Umm… seems you can get it (along with other back issues of the mag) as a free PDF!
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Paul
Me too.
That was excellent.
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Paul
Hi Paul,
Have googled images of JG891 but was unable to find any showing the oil tank, do you have any yourself?
Jason
Regarding Mark12…noticed him logged in earlier when I originally started this thread, no doubt he would have sewn it all up by now aqes ago but for the sad actions of a few.
Jason,
I haven’t got or don’t recall seeing any of JG891’s with the bottom cowling off, but if you look here, you can see the one piece bottom cowling clearly.
http://www.warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=21111
(It’s the third picture down in the first post).
There were some pictures of it flying at Duxford prior to it’s departure with it fitted.
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Paul
It does look like a MK.V.
Most likely a this aircraft had a tropical filter, and hence a larger oil tank fitted.
If the tropical filter was removed, a one piece cowling could be fitted in it’s place.
Take a look at pictures of JG891 after it had it’s tropical cowling removed and one fitted, prior to it going to the US.
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Paul
Thanks, Paul. That pretty much confirms what had I thought. Now the only question is, did Rotol change the color of their ID disks after the war? If not, it would seem that the Mk. 24 had red/pink disks, as did the Mk. XII.
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Pip
I’m sure they did at some stage, which I guess adds to the confusion! (I can’t remember if the post war disks have been discussed in detail here).
Anyway, here’s a resized picture I took of the IWM MK.24 propeller, which has the ID disk in Red.
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Paul
Pip,
According to the info in ‘Spitfire – The History’, the MK XII (Griffon IV powered machines) had a Rotol R13/4F5/5 Propeller with Dural blades (first 6 AC only), later aircraft had the R13/4F5/6 propeller with Jablo blades, whilst the Griffon VI powered machines had the latter prop (no blade type given), but I assume them to be Jablo too.
As for the MK.24, it gives the propeller types as the Rotol R14/5F5/2 with Jablo blades.
Unfortunately, no blade design numbers are given.
EDIT
Just found this thread posted on here giving the blade numbers for the MK.24. You might have seen this one before, but just incase: –
http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?77470-Questions-on-Spitfire-Propellers-(merged)
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Paul
I seem to recall Sir John Allison saying in an article for Pilot magazine about flying the P-40, that the Allison was ‘Smooth’ and ‘Quieter’ that a Merlin, but not as ‘Exciting’.
After hearing various in-cockpit recordings of the Allison from a P-40, it does seem to be the case.
I must admit though, I’ve never heard anyone say that the Merlin was a difficult engine to handle.
I think it was a bit like the Griffon – on tickover it sounded a bit rough but when it was opened up it was sweet.
I thought it was the other way round.
As I understand it (from in the cockpit), the Griffon is supposed to sound and feel smooth at idle or low rpm, whereas the Merlin doesn’t. However, as the power is increased, the Griffon sounds and feels rougher, and the Merlin smoother.
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Paul