Piston Provost G-TMKI

Did you contact the owner(s) of G-TMKI? I spoke to one of the owners a few weeks ago specifically about this and he said it is for sale.

Good airplane.

Pictures

Hi Bruce,

I know the owner of those pictures and he has debated putting them and others on the site, but as an interested party, has declined to get involved. I have seen the many he has and can confirm from discussions with him that the airframe and engines are in clean, dry, heated storage and are not suffering any more than if they were on display in the Museum’s spaces. Any debate as to the conditions of the current storage situation is a red herring. A few items are/were stored outside but under cover and their condition was satisfactory and restorable.

More Relevant

More relevant, not more valuable. If I am not mistaken, the CF-104 was built and operated in Canada (and in Alberta) with the Canadian Forces, something the Mosquito was not and did not do. The board of the Museum seemed to think it was a good trade or they would not have approved it.

Again, the issue is the ability of a public body to pull out of a contactual arrangement, not the relative values of the aircraft.

Legal issue

Is it about ownership and control, or is it about honoring contracts and committments? Do the City and the Museum have a right to pull out of a contract because they either change their minds or don’t like the terms? Are these entities above or exempt from following legal precedent? What does this say about doing business with them in the future? Will the next “buyer” fall foul of the same?

Provost Airframe

Piston Provost P56 PROVOST T1 Serial No.: PAC/F/268 registered G-TMKI may be for sale. It was a while ago. It is a good solid airframe, virtually complete, and very good restoration project. I believe that the engine an propeller are with it as well.

It was purchased from the Strathallan Collection in the mid ’90’s by Tim Manna/Kennet Aviation and then sold on to the current owner. You can find those details on the CAA website:

http://www.caa.co.uk/application.aspx?catid=60&pagetype=65&appid=1&mode=detail&aircrafttype=provost&dataindex=31

As with all Piston Provosts flying, there is no paperwork, yet they can fly. The CAA have allowed these aircraft to fly, most with full aerobatic capabilities, based on the average life of a Piston Provost in service versus the fatigue life of the wings and centre section. Looking at the average Piston Provost, it flew about 1/2 to 2/3rds of it allowable fatigue life for the wings. The centre section has a greater fatigue life.

Spares are available but a good Leonides 126 engine will be the hardest thing to find. 125 and 127 engines are around and are convertible, but it is not the easiest of tasks, or as straightforward as some might suggest.

Otherwise a very honest aircraft. A great airplane to fly and fairly easy to maintian. Good luck.

CF 104’s

I know a man with access to very good condition CF104’s. With whom should he speak?

Structural Failure

With all the tens of thousands of hours flown on all marks of JP’s, to put an aerobatic restriction on them and at the same time not restrict the “G” sounds a bit nearsighted. It is not the maneuver that might cause the structural failure, but the stress put on the stucture that might cause it. One might pull 5 or 6 G’s in the break if one wanted to. One could also do a nice roll with very little increas in positive G applied. One is aerobatic, the other is not. What have the Australians done?