I’m not necessarily talking about persisting with F-14Ds… or upgraded variants.
I’m talking about having something with equal or better capability. It could be an Su-33 decked out in USN colors with modern avionics for all I care!
The Navy has lost a significant amount of payload-range with the loss of F-14, A-6 and EA-6B.
When your landing strip can be sunk, its in your interests to keep that as far away from danger as possible. As the USN is acutely aware of for any South China sea incursions.
The F-14 was a cool plane, but it went away because its mission went away.
If the Navy had had more money it would still have bought something else for one simple reason… it didn’t need a long range interceptor and it certainly wasn’t interested in funding ongoing production and upgrades for a specialized long-range bomber killing missile.
Ugh. So one dimensional.
The Navy needs range. Range for interdiction and range for interception and airframe size for power gen for EW. Always has, always will – keep the boats as far away from harm as possible. They were able to use the E/F Hornet in the 90s and 00s without boat loss due to the nature of the threat environment. But, don’t be under any illusion that Navair didn’t suffer for it. The most obvious example would be the severe limits imposed by the E/F’s payload-range over Afghanistan. In the future, their primary EW asset will also be severely range/endurance limited.
A hypothetical F-14E (or, the F/A-XX) will rectify matters.
[Note that even NATF wouldn’t have solved the problem as the F-22’s range is not where it would need to be for Naval ops.]
I don’t see any way that the Navy gets the F/A-XX with single service requirements. The NG Tacair (F-X) and the F/A-XX programs will most likely share one platform.
As long as the requirements aren’t too disparate, then the USAF and USN can share.
The USMC are out the door though, their “me too” approach has f**ked JSF up something shocking.
The F-18E/F may not have the legs of the F-14 but is a much more capable weapon system, however unsexy.
The E/F is a more capable weapons system now and even then only in certain aspects as it received the benefits of 20 additional years of development.
With that big nose, long range, loiter capability and payload capacity, an F-14 that seen the same development budget as the “Super” Hornet would be capable of hoisting hypothetical AIM-54E for over a hundred miles guided by a big, massive AESA radar.
If you wanted to put a CVBG into the South China sea or perhaps more topically, into the Barents, its chances of survival would be significantly better if the USN had developed the F-14/AIM-54 combination rather than going with the F/A-18/AIM-120 option.
Yes, the SH can turn a bit better and yes, it is easier to maintain (although given the typical comparisons drawn was between 20 year old airframes and brand new ones it is questionable if the difference would be as pronounced as oft proclaimed).
But, if the lack of outright fleet interceptor performance means your runway is now resting on the bottom of the ocean, then was it really such a good idea?
The USN has got by till this point, which is very good work from their threat assessment folks – but they are now aware of their Pacific limitations… hence the F/A-XX noises.
Risk is always going to be there when you seek a Jammer with power requirements that determine the size and bulk of the entire package.
Additional risk is always going to be there when you’ve retired your heavy aircraft and are seeking to shoehorn machines that are not fit for the purpose into the role.
The farce that is the Growler is a direct result of the complete and utter inability of the USN to adequately replace its heavy long-reach aircraft. Those mistakes are only being exacerbated with the move to F-35. Although it would seem Navair are aware of how far they’ve regressed and with F/A-XX are looking to redress the balance.
Fact is, a USN carrier was a much more dangerous opponent in the 1980s than it is now. It’s relative power will be even more diminished 10 years time.
And thats a reasonable design compromise for a craft that will not be going supersonic or be required to do hard turns in a2a battles!
Yes…
Because only the Americans have the wit to deploy home-on-jam missiles.
@Amega
Admittedly, your stance is openly hostile to the F-35 program and that’s fine, your entitled. But don’t you think it’s a bit disingenuous to point out drag issues with an external pod when most aircraft carry ordinance externally? And no fighter carries an internal jammer powerful enough to protect a strike package since the EF-111 was retired. Secondly, many aircraft use ram air induction for cooling with the notable exception of the LO aircraft in U.S. service
The use of a RAT to produce substantial power will equate to substantial drag.
That energy doesn’t come for free.
Doesn’t the RCS also fit in here somewhere..?
Have you been reading ahead at home?
Gold star for you today!
We’ll deal with RCS next week.
Tonight’s homework is to write a 50 line essay on: “What is the difference between a drop tank… which you can drop, and a much heavier jamming pod… which you cannot drop”.
[Submissions using MS Powerpoint are not allowed]
Oh, also of interest:
http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.aspx?id=/article-xml/AW_04_07_2014_p20-676203.xml
Someone at the top that understands powerpoint presentations don’t always translate to reality? As Sean Connery would say… Shurly shome mishtake…[or as Leslie Nielsen would say… Don’t call me Shurly]
I can’t imagine it being a comfy ride…
Why not?
Fairly high wing loading would mean a pretty comfortable ride.
RATS!
(Ram Air Turbines, that is)
Yes, and tomorrow’s lesson is on:
D – R – A – G
:eagerness:
we had the perfect platform binned after a ton of cash was put into development
What now?
The Nimrod was a complete disaster from start to finish.
Anyone involved in the decision to pimp up the Nimrod airframe should no longer be in public service. They are too stupid to trust with our money. It really is that simple.
What effort did the USN have post the NATF Cancellation? It was either buy more Hornets / Super Hornets or join the Joint program with the AF and the USMC..
That is a flimsy argument.
As far as the USAF and USN are concerned, the F-35 is very poor value for money.
The F-35 is far better than anything they could have gotten on their own given the situation post-cold-war.
I am very unconvinced of that.
The USMC would appear to be getting a fairly decent deal on the face of it*, everyone else is getting a bitter lemon.
*Till at least the real operational availability is ascertained.
Sure next time Ryanair can stay up there till the passengers pay the additional £5 descent supplement.