“Can you imagine Snapper , Ian , yourself , Steve Young, KeithMac et al roaming North Berwick on a Saturday night !!!!
” I’m sorry officer , I did’nt think it would burn so fast ” , as the caravan park burns ……………………………”
Me? How the hell did I get such a bad reputation? I’m a calm married father whose usual drinking buddies of late are octogenarians.
Actually, thinking about it, they are pretty well known for there trashing of vehicles, use of explosives, and speedy transportation!
For a visit to EF (in addition, not instead!) I suppose we could hire a minibus or two – or even all fly up from Stansted if we can get a cheap ryanair flight. And then some sober Scot – if it exists – can pick us up, we can drink, and I can bark away all night.
Can someone ask Lee again please?! LOL
I wouldn’t place too much faith in the airsow press releases. The blurb about 609 and its attendees at Legends was utter nonsense in parts. I suggest that whoever wrote what you have read has about as clear an idea of what OFMC are up to as those of us who listened to Lee on Sunday do!!!!!
Not in order anymore. Me, You, Ashley, Airgage have had a go. Will email as soon as I find the bloody addresses again!
I thought Lee said the P40 was a definite stayer, and the Corsair may or may not. Mind you, like the tart that I am I was busy stealing sideways glances at you (sigh) and Futureshox (sigh), so may have misheard.
Wasn’t there some issue with the P40 that was discussed on here recently? Something about it’s licence or something?
Steve Young has it. I passed it on on Sunday.
Nope.
Corsair and P40. P40 is staying, Corsair may or may not be.
I think just a meet and wander, followed by the pub, would be the best option. I can get days off relatively easily – but i’m in a fortunate position. I doubt that many would turn up on a Friday. Remember, Hendon was not a great success, numbers wise, as it was a Saturday and many people work on that day too. I think Sunday’s are the best option for a decent turnout.
I’ve never been to Cosford. Count me in mate.
I would be inclined to disagree with you there Kev. The ‘Ace’ fighter pilot can be traced back to the First World War, and in that particular conflict they were definitely ‘on their own’ as such – the RFC fighter pilots were about the only numerous ‘command’ (correct me if I’m wrong please). Different war though. At that time ALL of aviation was a thing of awe-inspiring wonder. All pilots were held in some kind of appealing esteem. This, and the ‘cleanliness’ and chivalry of their fight is what I think Moggy is meaning, and is certainly a contributing factor in the later war.
‘Cobber’ Kain was the first one to get elevated into the public spotlight in World War 2 during the Battle of France. This, and the subsequent events of the Battle of Britain (where many of the legends were born) pre-date Bomber Commands big raids / big losses by a substantial amount. By the time the Ruhr was being hit hard and the bombers were going down in large numbers (large enough to become public knowledge – I am not forgetting the earlier courage of the Fairey Battles in France, or the Blenheims, Wellingtons and Hampdens of previous years, losses of which were certainly heavy, though not ‘large scale’ in the same degree.) Adding to this, we have the ‘Never before’ speech by Churchill and that best-selling account of the Battle of France, ‘Fighter Pilot’ by Paul Richey, amongst other things, yet the butchery that was happening high up was over another country, out of sight, at night, and probably largely withheld for morale. Also, by this time, the fighter pilots were back on more level ground. The days of defence were over, and the offensive had begun. By 1941 the Spitfires were sweeping over France, continuing through 1942, and by 1943 they, with Typhoons, were doing that and counterring the tip-and-run raiders. Again, out of sight (largely) and out of mind. The ‘kills’ weren’t what they had been in that first summer. By 1944, the fighter pilots star was largely on the wane. The Typhoons had gone over to ground attack roles for the main part, the Spits too, the Hurricane in Europe was largely out of the front line, and Fighter Command was being incorporated into Tactical Air Forces with other operational requirements and commitments. Meanwhile, Harris still had a great deal of autonomy inasmuch as his job was still the same, albeit on a grander scale, and the force he commanded had grown ever-larger in both materiel and crews.
Come on. Get stuck in! Get typing! Opinions, analyses, thoughts!
Great quote Manonthefence – that goes totally with much of what I have read in the past from accounts by those who were there.
I doubt that’s the only answer, and there are bound to be many, many more variables to think of. Anyway, answers come secondary to discussion – and there is a good mix and cross-section of people on here who can look at different angles.
Hmm. We can get an add on ‘bulge’ for the Coffman, but I assume that’s for the MkII – in which case the removal of that would suffice for a MkI. Spinners – presumably, depending on the kit’s quality, some sanding and filing could solve that. Good show chaps!
I would gladly help, but I never went near the flightline, other than a quick five minutes with Jim Stewart DFC in front of the Sea Hurri. I didn’t snap the flying either. In fact, other than the 609 guys and Bee Beamont’s presentation, I have nothing I can help with. However, if you want a couple of those, let me know.
Seeing as we all had at least one drink, and some food, they lost themselves £150 – 200. Bless their little hearts, they’ll be laid off after Christmas.
Cheers Rebecca – absolutely top-notch day – again. Many thanks also to Lee Proudfoot, an excellent talk, and well answered questions.
And a big ‘up-yours’ to a certain pub, but full marks to another!
Who the hell are you? Why the hell would we care?
Only kidding. Hello mate, hope all is well.
Mark