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  • in reply to: Aerial photo of London Airport 1965 #478855
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    Well, I have discovered I am out of my depth against some of you very knowledgable guys. I am probably wrong about the first BOAC Boeings being second hand. I know the airline had a large fleet registered G-APF? and these seem to have had the old engines that I thought were Pratt & Whitney because of the odd jet outflow pipe shape. The later jets G-AX?? had what I thought WERE the rolls-Royce engines.

    Here are the two different engine types.

    http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/ab64/raggidoll/BOAC707ENGINES.jpg

    I just thought I’d read in a history of BOAC that they’d acquired a few used 707 jets in the early 1960s. But the G-APF? fleet are clearly pre-registered as though they were being built for the airline. I know the two state carriers held with this practice of pre-registering new fleets of airliners since the early post-war days.

    in reply to: Aerial photo of London Airport 1965 #478870
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    VeeOne….top photo is by Bill Sheridan. too, from August 1970….about the time I started working near the Fields Hangar… the TriStar hangar was built roof first which was jacked up hydraulically…completed in 1971 I believe….I wonder why so many T3 aircraft including the Zambia AW DC-8 are parked near the QB?
    The fence in the 707 smoky shot was on the perimeter road which was inside the primary wire mesh airfield fence…I wonder if thats a go-around rather than a full take-off?

    Ah, his two photos really say London Airport 1960s to early 1970s to me! That was what it was all about. It does seem odd that there are so many T3 jets in delta stands. I wondered that too. Where is the ubiquitous Olympic 727 or the BKS Britannia I have seen in so many photos?

    The Cyprus (BEA) Viscount is interesting. They were obviously being helped to serve London by BEA back then. I guess this was just before the Tridents were purchased.

    The TWA 707… well considering it has covered over 2 miles of runway it doesn’t seem too high to my eyes. I don’t think that there were too many go-arounds back in 1970 were there? My recollection was that Heathrow didn’t have the traffic it does now. Wouldn’t a go-around suggest this was the landing runway and the preceding landing traffic had taken too long to clear the active? If so we should see it entering the outer taxyway at block 85 I think and it is not in the photo.

    Of course, TWA used 707s on all of their London-USA routes so this might have been on a low density route and so going out light. That could explain why the pilot has the gear up so early?

    in reply to: Aerial photo of London Airport 1965 #478980
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    Chaps & Chappettes.

    Please do not quote photographs as per the Quoting Abuse Sticky in every forum and rule 15 of the CoC. We’ll all be the first to have a sook and a whinge when the forum is on a go slow. The server space is a finite commodity.

    Thank you

    Copy that Deano! No including of photos in replies to posts with images. 😉

    in reply to: Aerial photo of London Airport 1965 #478985
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    Didn’t realise until that picture that BOAC purchased Pratt powered 707’s!

    I believe BOAC purchased second-hand 707s in the early 1960s. I believe these were the older -400 series model with the little fin under the tail and the really old P&W engines with the odd shaped bit at the back of the engine. They were only allowed to buy Boeing because of a delay in VC-10 deliveries.

    Then they purchased new RR powered 707s against the government’s preferences to buy only British, because the 707 worked well on the airline’s routes. I guess the British engines swayed the decision. BEA was never so lucky to get the non-British aircraft it really wanted.

    in reply to: Aerial photo of London Airport 1965 #479012
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    Here is a photo I like (origin unclear) showing part of the viewing area and the airport in 1970. It really brings out the interesting nature of the older airliners and the openness of the airport in back then. They seem to be building the BEA Tristar hanger and the BOAC car park. Some of the old British Eagle hangers are still present.

    http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/ab64/raggidoll/aviation/Heathrow70deltastandsview.jpg

    A lovey photo by Bill Sheridan that I really think brings out the easy going visual nature of the airport in the 1960s is his photo of a TWA 707 departing 28L. Taken from the far end of the runway it shows the lovely little two-bar wooden fence that surrounded the airport back then. Sweet! You can almost see the flock of sheep eating grass. 😉

    http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/ab64/raggidoll/Heathrow10RendTWA707departing1970billsheridan.jpg

    in reply to: Aerial photo of London Airport 1965 #479037
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    Nice photos of the BOAC jumbos, mick. I am sure i would have noticed one of those if they’d been there at BOAC Maintenance!

    Manchester sounded good back then, like Gatwick maybe?

    IL62m… I totally agree. The viewing area in the 60’s and 70’s at London Airport gave families and enthusiasts a genuine day out. It had loos and you could buy an ice cream or meal. Lots of seating too. A relaxing place in the summer sun with superb views. Gatwick was almost as good I believe.

    in reply to: Aerial photo of London Airport 1965 #479179
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    Here is photo I just scanned. It was taken in 1971. It shows a BOAC Boeing 707 crossing from airside into the BOAC Maintenance base. BEA maintenance hangers are in the background. I took this while being driven to the airport. We stopped and I got out and took the photo. I say it was 1971 but it might actually have been 1970 as there are no BOAC jumbos around or we would have probably photographed those too, as they were so new and amazing to see.

    What is amazing is the zero level of security at London Airport at that time. Anyone could have turned east and driven airside onto 28 right (and I believe someone did exactly that – rumour had it that an old age driver did it at night after getting confused at the crossing point of the perimeter road and the aircraft crossing!!)

    http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/ab64/raggidoll/BOAC707crossingroad.jpg

    in reply to: Aerial photo of London Airport 1965 #479184
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    I took this photo of the Queen’s Building viewing area in about 1989.

    The area shown was not accessable from the bridge postion the pic was taken. I was not on the bridge itself as access was blocked. I think there is a lack of aeroplanes in the photo because of the passenger terminal extension out from T1. At that time I found you could still have full range of the viewing area south of the ‘bridge’ between the QB Admin and the T2 buildings. Wish I’d taken a picture that way too but it was only luck my mom had a small camera with her to take this pic.

    Farnboroghrob… I believe the entrance way you can see in the lower area went into the cafe area you recall. It had windows all around onto the apron.

    I have just noticed there isn’t a staircase up to the uppermost viewing gallery. I guess they took it away at some stage in the 1980s.

    It is a shame that, with all the photographs that must have been taken of the aeroplanes at London Airport there seem almost no photos of this classic viewing area at all. But film was so expensive to use back then and I guess the jets were what people came to see. Hope this pic brings back memories.

    http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/ab64/raggidoll/aviation/qb90.jpg

    in reply to: Aerial photo of London Airport 1965 #479209
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    Thanks longshot, that cafe you describe, sounds like the right place. Just a thought ref that ‘distant Douglas’, were SAS still using DC6s or DC7s into LHR at that time, possibly on cargo duties? It could be one of theirs maybe.

    I think you have got it, IL62M! That could easily be SAS in dark blue on the fin. I have a photo from my Airline History Website days showing several SAS DC6 planes outside terminal 2 so I guess this would be just a few years on.

    in reply to: Aerial photo of London Airport 1965 #479433
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    The best I can get…

    http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/ab64/raggidoll/Image1-1.jpg

    At this res it looks like Aer Lingus 1960 livery, so Viscount/carvair? Or maybe PanAm DC6??

    in reply to: photo of USAF Fairford in 1983 #2377223
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    Yes. Serious times.

    in reply to: Aerial photo of London Airport 1965 #479442
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    Thanks Longshot!

    The plane I assumed was the Lufthansa DC6 is in the far parking area on the unused runway 33L (runway no.6) just above the Air Canada DC8.

    The photo on your link shows the tail markings covering most of the tail (unlike the standard fleet livery) so I don’t think this is what is in the photograph.

    It could be anything I guess. 🙂

    I am getting much of my details of the airport back then from a little Esso guide to London Airport I got off of eBay. It says BUA was the main cargo operator along with Seaboard World. But this is clearly not a BUA DC6 as they had little Union flags on the fin back then (according to my guide).

    I have seen a photo of one of those LH Commandos. It is still used today by Buffalo Airways, Canada. In the TV series ‘Ice Pilots’ you can see the old Lufthansa bird symbol on the nose!

    in reply to: Snapshots in Szolnok AFB – Hungary #509552
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    Sad to see all those classic aircraft as mere hulks on an overgrown airfield.

    I guess they were all built for the war with the west that fortunately never came.

    in reply to: Edinburggh oldies -60's #479615
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    Edited: CoC Rule 15

    I remember London Airport with its 1960s two-bar wooden fence. I know military/MOD airfields had fences back then. I didn’t realise other civil airports had them.

    in reply to: Frankfurt 06-07-2011 #479618
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    Wow, that Lufthansa A380 photo really shows what a huge beast the A380 is!

    Love the retro Lufthansa A321, too.

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