Can you please say what is there in the way of Second World War and earlier types – if any, and if there are, are they kept under cover and maintained?

Soggy.

None. It is all modern stuff with the earliest being a Mig-15 and a Mil-1 helicopter. A lot of the airframes are actually developmental machines pushed out of the doors of the various OKBs with offices around the edge of the former airfield.

None of the airframes are under cover.

As bad as things are for the museum, it was a much worse scenario for the airfield as the former Moscow Central Aerodrome was closed down and taken over by Mayor Turi Luzhkov to have flats and shops and restaurants built on it.Very sad.

That’s a nice shadow on the ground

http://aerial.rcahms.gov.uk/database/record.php?usi=006-001-015-011-C&

The jury had no discretion – the offence is one of strict liability which effectively means that there is no defence to it. You are found in possession of an weapon for which you don’t have a license – you are guilty full stop.

Fair point and well intended, but the wrongs of the past don’t necessarily justify the wrongs of the present.

Sadly, much of the conflict of today is rooted well and truly in the past. I once asked an Irish friend about why they had issues with Britian and she told me in excrutiating detail every wrong (preceived or otherwise) and action which had taken place against Ireland from the 1600s onwards. She was a normal person but clearly the historical framework was well and truly imbedded in her psyche.

Sorry, but I think we are supposed to be discussing now, not centuries ago. If you read what is written it is not anti-Islam, it is anti any Muslim who is not prepared to come here to live without malicious intent towards us and to abide by our laws.

What is history now was current at the time. Think about the spread of Roman Catholicism in central and southern America and how that was achieved.

The point I am making is that at any point in time there will be movements of people of different cultrures and religions. It is a historical fact and no amount of Daily Mail type rhetoric will changes that.

There is no such thing as a truly “British culture” and to pretend otherwise is harking towards the thoughts of a certain Mr A Hitler.

Lots of Muslim people come here and settle and integrate into society and fair play to them. I just get fed up with people painting all Muslims with the same brush.

I am enjoying these exchanges between Phantom and Arthur but I am not sure that it is that easy.

Yes, in general, Europeans are extremely tolerant, but, and this point is crucial, we require immigrants to be equally tolerant. It is when they are not that problems arise.

In the longer term I think Phantom may be right. If the Muslim populations reach the levels predicted in the next 20 years and the Muslims are not prepared to accept the indigenous cultures then there is real danger.

I don’t think we can afford to be complacent.

Like the Vikings were tolerant then? Or the Romans?

I have to admit that all this anti-Islam stuff just leaves me cold. In fact, any religious stuff for that matter.

What pure indigenous cultures are there left anyway? The white intruders killed most of them where they still existed.

Brussels is a cash cow into which billions of pounds of money we could well do with here, is poured to be spent on grandiose, wasteful and unnecessary schemes and to line the pockets of and feather the nests of its massive army of employees and representatives.

Change Westminster (and Holyrood) for Brussels and see how true that statement is as well