From a random web site
The King Air B200C equipped with cameras, cargo doors and special mission systems, is in service with the armed forces of Greece.
I’m still not convinced that it’s a King Air as I recken the engine cowlings extend too far forward
I have to say that I didn’t think the picture of the Kingair from below posted above was a King Air either precisely for that reason.
Not with the Union Jack on the tail and under the cockpit! I’d say the red and blue of the roundel are round the other way for France?
John
Forget what I wrote. My brain must have been left at home today…
Hi ZHR,
As the car was driving along the A281 road (that passes just east of the runway threshold) at the time, rather than parked up to watch the flying, then I don’t think the occupants can be classed as airfield spectators who were watching from an inadvisable/unsafe location. They would be better classified as unfortunate passers-by who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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To me these cases show that it is probably unwise to spectate on the extended centreline of a runway around an airport boundary even if you can do so from a public footpath or roadway – or that you to keep your wits about you if you do choose to stand there.
Paul F
Oh yes, I agree that the Dunsfold incident was definately ‘wrong place wrong time’ category rather than spectating but I have stood there on the fence on the A281 trying to read the Danish hunters off on the ramps in the old days.
I also remember Doug Arnold driving up and down the fence at Blackbushe the day the Dan Air Comet landed trying to chase us all away.
As somebody else said up thread, when your number is up your number is up..
What’s with the ‘Red Arrows’ Alphajet? :confused:
Isn’t it the original PdF colour scheme?
Looks like its last owner was David Koresh:p
Hahahahaha 😉
It’s not just down to differing definitions and here I show my scars of countless ICAO/EUROSTAT (and IATA) stats meetings trying to get statistical definitions harmonised between differing organisations so that even the definition of a revenue passenger was the same across the board.
I frequently had problems at meetings with differences in the system financial results that IATA published in World Air Transport Statistics and the Form EF-1 results published by ICAO because of definitional aspects like non airline activities etc etc etc.
You have to remember that IATA is a trade association and there to represent and lobby on behalf of its members. It does not represent all carriers and given that people like Easyjet, Ryanair and Southwest are not members (although FR was for some years) it probably represents less of the industry now than it did ten years ago.
Back in the late 80s the IATA Director General was Gunter Eser and he would not allow the IATA PR people to release any negative publicity about the airline industry unless it was absolutely necessary and everything had to go through his office for approval before public release. The next DG Pierre Jeanniot was more reasonable but his successor Bisignani is a different kettle of finish altogether for reasons I wont go into here but it is noticeable that these results were issued just before the IATA AGM in Berlin this week.
The beauty of IATA financial stats in the days when I compiled them was that the most widely used statistic could not be tied up against anything else that was published – quarterly financial statistics for international scheduled services. ICAO didn’t collect this stuff and airlines did not break down costs and revenues in their annual reports, so who could prove our figures wrong?
Some years back I asked the copilot on a BA 744 (in the days when you could get cockpit visits) what the effects of mobiles were. He said that the most commonest effect for some reason was on fuel valves.
In the past they have flown a separate arrival route to the main formations and then it’s all down to the timings to fit them into the main stream. After crossing Buck House they would peel off and fly a different exit route
There was also G-BCUX a HS125 piloted by John Cunningham that went through the fence at Dunsfold after suffering multiple birdstrikes on take off which than ploughed into a car killing the six occupants.
http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19751120-1
Last Friday I saw Auster 5 (BAPC-70) “TJ398” roadrunning along the A1 heading for the Edinburgh city by-pass and points North
On the grounds that I would sooner fly in one of Air Atlantique’s DC3’s than in a commercial Tristar (no offence meant to any specific airline), can we count it as historic? If so, anybody any idea why one was low over Walsall, looking to be heading for BHX at 1.35 today?
Apologies to mods if this isn’t historic enough, I won’t be offended if it’s deleted straight away.
It was a RAF one
Judging by the flight pattern flown it sounds very much like one of the spooky Northolt Islanders on security patrol, possibly in connection with the London Olympic building projects.
Is that a knock on the door I hear…?
Oh yes, I did read the whole report, thank you.
However, (speaking as a former IATA employee who knows what sort of things go in the Geneva/Montreal control bunkers) a turn round of some $5bn just before the IATA AGM is somewhat suspicious given the prevailing economic climate.
Probably one of the Islanders from RAF Northolt Station Flight.
Best not to enquire too closely as to what it is up to 😉