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  • in reply to: Pakistan airforce news #2623055
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    banking…

    in reply to: Pakistan airforce news #2623061
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    another one. Not sure this one is new. About avionics. I am sure the Chinese are improving very fast. Maybe not comparab le with latest but we talk about third generations here.

    in reply to: Pakistan airforce news #2623066
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    Thanks. Cat. Appreciated. Here another of the first version with the older smokey engine.

    in reply to: Pakistan airforce news #2623075
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    another.

    in reply to: Pakistan airforce news #2623084
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    http://www.jang.com.pk

    F-16s issue to come up at Pak-US DCG meeting

    By Muhammad Saleh Zaafir

    ISLAMABAD: The Defence Consultative Group of Pakistan and the United States will have its second annual meeting here in the first week of December.

    The highest contact forum on defence matters of the two countries will be thrashing out a number of defence related issues of mutual interest including supply of the most sophisticated F-16 fighter planes to Pakistan.

    Highly placed defence sources told The News on Saturday that the meeting, originally planned for early October, has now been informally scheduled and the final date will be officially announced in a couple of days.

    Defence Secretary Lt-Gen (retd) Hamid Nawaz Khan will lead the host delegation at the meeting while the US team will be led by Douglas J Feith, Under secretary of Defence (Policy).

    Admiral (retd) Ehasanulhaq, Additional Defence Secretary and Maj-Gen Ali Baz, Additional Defence Production Secretary, will assist the defence secretary. The sources said that agenda for the meeting is being formulated.

    The ongoing defence cooperation under Foreign Military Funding of the US would be reviewed, and developments and implementation on the agreed items since the first meeting of the DCG would be discussed thoroughly.

    The meeting will also take up the expansion of training programme for officers of the Pak defence services, being imparted at high institutions of the US.

    Pakistan will raise the issue of supply of F-16s for its air force. The PAF got 32 planes in the 1980s and Islamabad is interested in getting at least 40 more planes besides the 18 planes withheld from the first deal by Washington.

    The planes, if supplied, will constitute another squadron of F-16. The US government in principle has agreed to provide the planes and has referred the matter to the US Congress. The DCG will also take up a request from Pakistan for supply of at least three PC-Orion-3 multi-role planes for the Pakistan Navy with an additional request for up-gradation of the existing planes of PC-Orion-3.

    The DCG will also take a decision at the request of Pakistan for supply of TOW-2 anti-tank missiles system for its land forces. In the meanwhile sources revealed that Washington would start supply of six C-130 Hercules planes within the next one month. The refurbished planes would be available to PAF by the second quarter of next year

    in reply to: Potential for the A-50/F-50 Golden Eagle? #2623131
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    Is UAE more democratic then the other arabic nations? It surely has enough cash to pay for these machines. But it seems to be bit strange that they suddenly have so many super high tech planes and almost none internal pilots. There was a row in the past about maybe UAE using foreign pilots. I know that in Turkey thay had only UAE pilots to get used to F16. But is UAE able to handle it internal? Do they have enough UAE engineers? Or is it like the KSA contract where pilots and enineers are hired from western nations?

    in reply to: Pakistan airforce news #2623151
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    I found finally a good pic of PAF f16 in Konya Turkey.

    in reply to: Pakistan airforce news #2623164
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    and one more.

    in reply to: Pakistan airforce news #2623168
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    and version 03

    in reply to: US flipflop offers… #2623199
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    Without making it non aviation minded… We have to wait and see what is brings in reality. Kerry does promise but what if… What happens if another mahor terrorist attack will happen during hid persidency? Sofar he seems to be more internal minded but remember that before 911 Bush never left US and he was fully focussed on internal matters.

    in reply to: U.S.-Pakistani Fighter Jet Deal Up in the Air #2623523
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    WASHINGTON, Oct 21 Alarmed by reports that the US administration may sell some F-16s to Pakistan if President George Bush was re-elected, India has strongly protested to Washington against the proposed sale, saying that it would spark an arms race in South Asia.

    Pakistan has rejected the Indian protest, saying that there already exists a conventional imbalance to the detriment of Pakistan and the proposed sale will only help bridge the existing gap between the defence capabilities of the two countries.

    Aware of the sensitivities of the issue, the State Department is telling both sides that Washington has not yet taken a decision on the matter.

    The Indian protest followed a statement last week by Rear Admiral Craig McDonald, head of the office of the US defence representative in Pakistan, who told a Pentagon-organized conference on security cooperation that the Bush administration would go before Congress early next year to seek authorization for the sale.

    “It’s a very long, involved process that will be taken up with our Congress once they come back after the first of the year,” press reports quoted him as saying.

    Participants in a six-day US-India forum sponsored by the Aspen Institute and the Confederation of Indian Industry earlier this week said they told US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld that such a sale, while manageable for the Indian military, would be taken badly by the Indian public.

    Mr Rumsfeld did not comment on the prospects of the sale of the F-16s at the meeting but a retired senior Indian military officer later told reporters that he understood the plan called for an initial sale of 18 planes, with another 62 aircraft to be sold later.

    The State Department, however, told Dawn that so far no decision had been taken anywhere, at any level of the US government, on the sale of F-16s to Pakistan.

    Non-Pakistani diplomatic sources, while talking to Dawn, said the Indians were upset because they had reasons to believe that the US government was very sympathetic to Pakistan.

    One such source said the US government had indicated to Pakistan that the door (to the F-16s) had not been closed yet and at some point, it might come up for serious discussions. Something might be moving, it might be even true, but nobody had made any decision yet, the source added.

    Brigadier Shafqaat Ahmed, Pakistan’s defence attaché in Washington, told Dawn that Pakistan had raised the issue of F-16s at every level of meetings it had held with the US administration.

    “We are hoping that the decision to this long-standing request will be favourable because it answers some of our very critical defence needs,” he said. But, he said, it was a long process which involved many meetings and reviews before a decision was taken.

    Brig Ahmed rejected the Indian concern as baseless because, he said, the Indians had a capability that was far superior to what Pakistan did. There were already conventional imbalances, imbalances that every country tried to bridge, said Brig Ahmed. And this weapon system is one of many weapons systems that would redress a conventional imbalance that exists to the detriment of Pakistan.

    He rejected the Indian protest that the sale of F-16s will spark an arms race in South Asia. There is no arms race going on. Our defence budget is frozen for many years and our defence expenditure is very modest.

    An Indian official, however, told reporters that New Delhi was against introducing such advanced weaponry into South Asia. They were not useful in the war on terror, and experience had shown that they could be used against India. They could spark a build-up of a weapons race in the region, the official told the Washington Times.

    In September, the Pakistani press carried a statement by PAF chief Air Martial Kaleem Saadat as saying that the United States had agreed to consider selling the nation F-16s fighter jets.

    Washington sold 40 F-16s to Pakistan from 1983 through 1987, when Pakistan supported Washington’s efforts to drive the Soviet Union out of Afghanistan. But in 1990, Congress passed legislation halting delivery of the jets because it said Pakistan was making a nuclear bomb.

    in reply to: U.S.-Pakistani Fighter Jet Deal Up in the Air #2623532
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    It is funny though if Indian start a topic about Pakistan deal with US it is allowed. but others are deleted… Anyway. India is blaming Pakistan to buy high tech weapons while at the same time they bought MKI. Can anyone tell me why it was deleted?

    in reply to: First export Gripens! #2624199
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    In the intrested list there is still Pakistan. Whether is reality? I don’t think so. Looking at the latest AFM there are still talks. I wonder about what. :confused:

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    That spine looks familiar… Ehh…

    in reply to: U.S.-Pakistani Fighter Jet Deal Up in the Air #2624207
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    I think I was a bit suprised when I read the former edition of AFM about the Indian Jaguars… I saw the same sentences before in a PAF article… Let me be so rude to copy these sentences:

    Page 40: “India had always had a problem USA’s penchant for imposing sanctions, for all kind of reasons.”

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