>>>Though it will publicly not admit it, the IAF is not keen on having two squadrons with different engines, particularly American ones. With the armed forces having already faced trouble when the United States imposed an embargo after the 1998 nuclear tests, the IAF is not in favour of having a critical component of American origin.

I fully respect IAF wishes about boycottable products. So it does affect US products that now are allowed to be sold but dangerous to buy.

Yeah, and also clandestine nuclear exports, puppet governments, dictatorships, religious fundamentalism on your side.. get the point? Don’t go dragging India into everything.. I understand your inferiority complex, but this is taking it too far,okay?

I don’t think that democracy is exact the example of the world either… Some nations have democracy and get not very high IW presidents thanks to fraus during elections (US). Some nations re-elect even the leader after they invade another nation without UN backup (Aussies). Even if there is no justified answer few years later. In the US it is normal not to speak against the president if he acts like dictator running to war… So. We should indeed leave all realities aside and concentrate on the dreamworld. 😉

I misunderstood the posting. Ok. Agree with your logical post. Thanks for taking time.

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I don’t think one can add Russia to Asia. And it needs a long road before it becomes worldpower again. About China and India. Probably. But that is cause the world market potentials (half of the world population). Whether it will be India? I think not without Pakistan. For the rest in Asia there is no nation that can match India. It is big and powerful so it is accepted. But as long as the problems between India and Pakistan continue there will be expense. Looking at latest developments now Pakistan seem to understand that economy is important. Which is a good development. Just do visit hindustantimes.com and see peace options between both are an option for both.

Sofar both nations have not seen top tech delivered. 😉

I don’t think they will get them at once. And one cannot build them at once. And the cost of the chinese version are lower the the export versions. So financially and logistically you are not correct. Whether they will get 1000? I think that is a lot. The “promise was” same quantities as PAF (150). But looking back at K8… The Chinese did order more… Besides that the FC1 is plug and play. The chinese will evolve it and we will see how far it will get. I think they are ending the mig21 cycle so a new cheap and simple plane would be handy. I don’t think that is same as J10 which is more expensive then Fc1…

Sofar I know there will be two production lines. One in China and one in Pakistan. The reason is probably to get Pakistan asap a medium tech plane and TOT. In the case of K8 it was not the urge cause the need was less important. And with getting a lot foreign orders the PAF got less room for more planes. My question is… If PAF lines is booked… Will the Chinese line be used for export? So China can buy so now and then (till 150 planes) a few? I doubt they will open more lines.

So if not 1000 Fc1 then 1000 J10? :diablo: