there aint no money for 125 mirages. so its going to remain in limbo for many years. more urgent progs like bison/jag/mig27 upg and MKI production line will get lions share of $$ for next few yrs.

And hawk. But there is a lot more cash then other nations have. If you look at the budget at the moment. Wow. But maybe the M2k will be a reserve if LCA will not outgrow testing phase. They have enough experience (even bombing in Kashmir) with M2k and I don’t think they are not happy with it.

Harry,

I am not a kid. Don’t start being negative or personal. I thought you had some PM about staying focussed on the topic. And yes it was sarcasm. The contradiction shows simplicity of your post. But I do agree with a part of your posting. Try to talk more structural. Leave those sentiments.

The only project that Pakistani are talking openly about is the JF17. And even that is not comparable with the info we get about the LCA or other planes at the moment. And it is normal for the Pakistani that they do not reveal all info. Being a boycotted nation makes you wiser.

About your info. What is next? A written statement for you at that expo? Please. You as an experienced person should know that PAF will not show arrogantly that they have something. And it is well known that they takl about keeping deals secret. That is one of the reasons that the might survive the planning period. We just started to talk about Erieye a few days before a visit to Sweden. You actually think they just improvised it? Or do we have to find a written evidence signed by the president? Well. I will post the ACM that you want to have a full report what he has discussed in Sweden concerning the ERIEYE…

Cheers.

If all the commentary someone has to say on the LCA is “I’ll believe it when I see it” then that person should just sit down, shut up, and wait to see it. Instead of saying “I’ll believe it when I see it” over and over again. Yes, we get you, you have doubts. Just shutup and wait for more substancial and more intricate details of the aircraft to come out. 🙂

So are we still hung up on the nose is too round or the nose is too short “issues”? 🙂

We had (or even better HAVE) many friends from a particular nation that say the same about J10 and Fc1. We are not even talking about what it is becoming but what had happened over a few decades. Not much. And it is a light fighter that will have to replace Mig21…

Well… India got some works from Boeing. If China is accepted by the US then it could be the same. But looking at divide and conquerer tactic of the US I doubt that they will accept China.

Thanx for the pic PLA. Looks like the Chinese pilot was taken up in the Mirage 3DP for a ride. Do you know when the picture was taken?

No idea but that person next to him is probably:

Well. Nothing wrong to do some training. But I haven’t heard in the Netherlands that they shut down (small) airports just for training. If they do emergeny landings then they just do that. Most of the timnes they do that a few times. Not a sudden emergency landing somewhere and then closing the airport.

The problem is that the FC1, J10 and LCA are not finished or teated in service. It is very hard to compare them just by looks or dimensions. That they are not 4.5 gen? Not at this time (IF IF IF IF or as above it will…. yeah but it is not yet…). Maybe with some serious MLU but sofar we just have to see them like F16a… Or mirage 2000… Anyway. For first timers not bad at all. The one thing I do fing intresting it the totally different approach. One using high tech composites. Other more focused on plug and play. Looking forward to see the end products.

About J10. I don’t think we have seen avionics of that one. Somehow I do feel that it is not that superb. Maybe it is in the same cat as the MLU f16 but not more then that.