This is always a difficult subject. I beleive Santos Dumonts ’14bis’ canard biplane flew in France in 1906.The Wrights were almost totally ignored until they came in France in 1907(?). Before that it was widely excepted in Europe that nobody had flown.
Of course in the US the Wrights had not sought publicity at all. Samual Langley had claimed the first flight. He was the head of the Smithosonian museum. A replica of his ‘aerodrome’ was displayed before WW2 as the first aircraft in the Smithsonian. Hence the Wright flyer was lent to the Science Museum until afte the war.
Lets hope we have a big celebration here in Farnborough in October 2008 for the first flight in Britian!!!!
I have them all from the 3rd edition(1968) onwards. They are always great reading for those wet Sundays. Years when Duxford and Hendon didn’t even have a entry! A time when Horsa fuselarges seems scattered all over the country and scrap yards were still in full swing.
Unfortuneatly it finished not long after my post. The Luftwaffre night fighter was a Lockheed 14 with some nose aerials like the Me110/Ju88 and was captured by a squad of soldiers flown in by women pilots in Bell 47G’s!! Totally authentic!! Serves me right for getting home early on a Friday!
An aircraft taking off as a 707 and landing as a 737 I can handle but Bell 47G’s in World War 2 thats a diffrent matter!
Vaery sad this was AS350B G-XMEN. The two pax were aircraft engineers on a test flight after maintance. Sadly they all eave young families.
Glad to see the Norseman is now being looked after. I remember it well from nosing round the woods at LFA, what a place.
I beleive it played a pre war Lufthansa airliner if a film some time ago hence the false D- markings.
Looking forward to visiting the Aviodrome in the summer.
I would like a book on BOAC wartime flights. Mossies to Sweden, Boeing 314’s to the states, Lodestars to Malta etc. It would also be nice to see a history of Imperial Airways. Have a book on BEA published about 10 years ago and it was excellent. Don’t forget us civil buffs.
Although my ultimate would be a reprint/update of AJ Jacksons ‘British Civil Aircraft since 1919’. If you are into British civil aircraft get a copy, its a must!!
It was just round the corner from where I live. The nose of the Dak was opposite the main bar and was in good condition and was totally complete. There was fuselarge skining and props, under cart all around the resturant area. The tail was sticking out of the ajacent Fleet Pond but was removed after numerous reports of a downed aircraft!
The food and service was crap and thankfully its a better Chef and Brewer pub now! We just have the Dak at the museum in Aldershot now.
Nice photos , is that a gunuine DC-4 in the background or a mock up?
I am coming over next year for a weekend at AMS and looking to go to the new museum. Is there going to be a bus service from Leystad station, or is it still a taxi journey?
Also I last visited about 10 years ago when there was a flying museum. I remember T-6’s, S-11’s, Tiger Moths, Dove etc. Are they still there? Also is it still ok to walk round the active airfield?
Sorry but I am one of those strange things, a spotter. FL year by year is 90% the same as the previous year. I would just like to see some of the European warbirds come across. I know most people would not know the diffrence from the based Corsair(s) and the Austrian one, but it would make a hell of a diffrence to me.
For me one(or all 3 !) of the Swiss JU52’s(why do they never come to the UK??). Also the complete Red Bull outfit, Corsair,B-25 Widgoen etc. Basically we need some more European based warbirds, I am getting bored of the same P-51’s etc. Oh and the Dutch and Swiss connies flying in formation!!!!
They (or one?) was a common sight at every IAT late 70’s/early 80’s in its all orange scheme. Just like the French operated Canberras I always thought they operated on general expermential work like there RAE/A&EE cousins?
From AJ Jacksons British Civil Aircraft 1919-1972
‘Britians 1st(and last) post war amphibian carried up to 7 passengers and 2 crew on the power of 2 Gipsy Queen 70 engines’. Amoungst the information.. was ordered by BWIA but after trials at St Vincent was found unsuitable for open sea use and their order was cancelled. Had extensive sales tours of North and South America and Europe but sales were dissapointing.
Production…
G-AIVX first flight 22/1/48 Shorts demonstrator scraped Belfast 4/55
G-AKLM crashed while on sales tour in Norway 15/10/49
G-AKLN TO LN-SUF 6/52
G-AKLO to Shell as VR-SDS 10/52
G-AKLP to Shell as VR-UDV 9/54
G-AKLR to JAT as YU-CFJ 9/51 for Dalmation coast services later to Yougoslav air force, preserved Blegrade
G-AKLS to YU-CFK
G-AKLT to PK-CMA Christian Missionaries 1/51
G-AKLU to LN-SUH 5/51 undercarriage removed
G-AKLV to AP-AFM 6/52 returned to Shorts 10/57 scraped 58
G-AKLW to SU-AHY 9/51, to Saudia Arabia and later Belfast
G-AKLX TO East Bengal Transport Comission AP-AGB 12/52
G-AKLY to AP-AGC 12/52
G-AKLZ to Indian Navy INS101 1/53
G-AKMA to Indian Navy INS102 1/53
Indian Navy INS103-110 not british registered
also exported directly
JZ-PTA replaced G-AKLT with Christian Missionaries in Indonesia
YV-P-AEG last production for Shell.
The flea(offically HM14 Pou-de-Ciel) was the UK’s first real large scale homebuilt. Over 100 were registered in the mid 30’s, only half of them flying. There were a series of crashes in dives. It was found that below a angle of -15 degrees there was too little pitching motion to raise the nose. So they were all banned in 1937.
The French continued to use the tandem wing layout after the war. Several of the modernised Fleas are still lying in France.
The Cri-Cri is the worlds smallest twin engined aircraft. They seemed to have mostly disseapeared now?
The Ward Gnome G-AXEI was the UK smallest aircraft, saw it in a museum about 10 years ago.
FL200 your records tie up with the great Air Britan british register(proved wrong by me many times before!).