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March 26, 2004 at 11:34 pm in reply to: One shot, two kills? #2653169

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Chuck Jeager got 2 kills like that, it is written in his biography (Yeager),
he came behind a pair of Me-109, got seen by the leader (rearwiew mirror) and this guy smashed into his wingman without Chuck firing a single shot (if memory doesnt fails) latter there were people teasing him about not crediting because he didnt actually fired his gun.:D
Camaro.

March 25, 2004 at 10:55 pm in reply to: South- Americian Airforces. #2654311

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m.ileduets…
actually what you said makes sense to me.
about anybody in the region feeling any danger, i seriously doubt it,
to me because on the enormous size of brazil, it makes sense to get the kinda’ range that the Su-35 can give, and properly flown it can kick anybody’s ass 😉

alberto, thanks for the info and sure, i’m dying to have that video, thanks a million. 😀
Camaro.

March 24, 2004 at 9:35 pm in reply to: South- Americian Airforces. #2655293

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A-29…may the best win 😉
personally i like the Suko, for the brazilian geography and seems that FAB likes it as well.
with france will be better doing Rafale than M2k as you said.
Mig-29 is outdated yes unless new hi-tech are built, wich i doubt,
f-16…nice but the yanks are going to force you into something you may dont like (like israel and the apg-68v9) who knows.

golden dragon, just by looking at the tailboom is clearly a Mi-8, the tailboom on the Mi-25 is much fatter.

hola alberto.
about the video…is it anywhere on the net? i’ve got to have it,
anyway is a Mi-8 as i said.
thanks beto.
Camaro.

March 24, 2004 at 7:03 pm in reply to: South- Americian Airforces. #2655595

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no way jose…;)
thats a Mi-8 being shot down, the fact that the news said something doesnt mean its true, its an Mi-8, its the one higher (above the mountain line) look at the last pic, where the explosion begins and then the smoke trail going down, i just check with windows photo wiewer and zooming in you can see clearly its a Mi-8.
poor *******s anyway. 🙁
Camaro.

March 23, 2004 at 11:28 pm in reply to: South- Americian Airforces. #2656119

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Was this part of the Equadorian border war or a COIN operation against the Shining Path?

the cenepa war, it was an ecuatorian missile who brought it down, and as you said there was no survivors.
on the ground below fierce and bloody battles were fought between the 2 armies, basically comando jungle warfare, real nasty.
Camaro.:(

March 23, 2004 at 8:48 pm in reply to: South- Americian Airforces. #2656229

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so…

that was it, painting them with the RDM radar was one thing, atacking them was another, to me if the ecuatorians had face them, they’d had M2k’s also on their kills record, so the gambling worked for the peruvians as the ecuatorians never took the chance and never came to face them.
pretty simple (and risky i’d say)
Camaro.

March 23, 2004 at 8:30 pm in reply to: South- Americian Airforces. #2656253

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As far as I read, Peru only used its Mirages 2000 on CAP missions to persuade the ecuatorians. At the time of the war they are operating with full ammo on its DEFA cannons as well as two Magic AAM missile for close combat. But, probably the Peruvians realized that did not worth sending the M2000s to combat directly with the F1s to avoid unnecessary losses.

good point but it just doesnt make any sense to send Sukhois and A-37 without any escort just for that reason, one thing is for sure, the french turned their backs on them. 😡
Camaro

March 23, 2004 at 7:19 pm in reply to: South- Americian Airforces. #2656341

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Interesting… I never understood why peruvians didnt use their powerful M2000 on the conflict . But probably French may have denied assistance to Equator as well but they used their Mirrage F1
exactly, the only diference was on who prepared for and who didnt. if there was the slightest suspicion of what was comming the results would have been much different.

and yes the show was at the miraflores district beach.
here goes the last one of my collection.;)
Camaro

March 23, 2004 at 4:12 pm in reply to: South- Americian Airforces. #2656530

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and the final fate.

March 23, 2004 at 4:11 pm in reply to: South- Americian Airforces. #2656536

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next one

March 23, 2004 at 4:10 pm in reply to: South- Americian Airforces. #2656572

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this is a photo sequence of a peruvian Mi-8 being shot dowh by what it seemed to be a blowpipe missile.
Camaro.

March 23, 2004 at 4:04 pm in reply to: South- Americian Airforces. #2656596

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dear golden dragon, you’re right
there were no migs at the time, only M5 and M2k wich had no air to air missiles, seems that the few Magics were due for overhaul or something and the french denied any assistance during that war (parts etc) so the peruvians could not establish any CAP therefore any superiority (jan-feb 1995), basically in few words…
they were caught in the toilet seat with their pants down, that’s how bad it was for the peruvians.
on the other side the ecuatorian air force was preparing since the defeat from 1981 while the peruvians were concentrated on fighting “the shining path” terrorist/guerilla group wich cost the taxpayers 1 billion dollars to defeat.:eek:
Camaro.

March 23, 2004 at 3:46 pm in reply to: United Arab Emirates to get An-124 #2656606

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maybe for the film…
die the day after another day 😀 😀 😀
whatever the use. i’d love to fly that myself 😉
Camaro.

March 23, 2004 at 3:21 pm in reply to: The biggest air exercise in LA of all times is about to happen in Brazil!!!!!! #2656632

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moito obrigado A-29 😀 😀 😀

March 23, 2004 at 3:10 pm in reply to: South- Americian Airforces. #2656675

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dear carrizo, right on man;) you got it.
the reason for the soon to be needed overhauls is easy to deduct, i’ll tell you this…
the air force owes petro-peru 80 million dollars (in fuel)…guess why? 😮
yep brother…they’re flying the hell out of them, which is good news.
Camaro.
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