in 10 years it will be :

Rafale
FGFA
SU30 upgrade
Gripen or F16 “make in India”

Which is still too many types, but more reasonable
mig-29 will be retired becuase it is an expensive airframe to maintain. that is why there are so many air forces dropping mig-29 even though it is a 4th gen fighter. it is the most abandoned 4th gen

mirage will be sold second hand since they are first gen air frame and there will be buyers. maybe argentina or brazil

LCA will be reduced or even eliminated for Gripen or F-16

AMCA project will die. India does not have the industrial and political capacity to see this completed. maybe in 2060

Not sure about that…10 years seems too close to retire mirages and MIG29. Upgraded mirage 2000 are just rolling out of HAL factory right now and are just starting their operational life in the IAF…It is just the beginning.
MIG 29 is also recently upgraded and in service in the navy with recent airframes.

What about Jaguars and mig 27 ? I am not sure there are clear plans to retire the jaguar some of them being fairly recent…

They are also getting brand new LCA.

Except for the mig-21 and perhaps mig 27 there are no retirement anticipated in the near term. Mirage, Migs and Jaguars will be operationnal for at least the next 15 to 20 years (they got life extension programs). Same for LCA.

Then there is the SU30MK (not the “i”) which is not planned to go out of service in the near term as far as I know.

So India wants not only to manufacture the aircraft for itself but for the rest of the world ? This seems a pretty big demand. Indian procurement seems unrealistic to me…And they add another type despite investing 1.7 billion on customizing the rafale + other investments on facilities etc…Seems foolish.

It looks like this new tender is going the same route than former MRCA with big delays if demands are unrealistic.

They should have bought the mirage 2000 production line from France, they would be the only one to manufacture and export them.

Wednesday, October 26, 2016
By: The Hindu Business Line

The government’s plan to manufacture single-engine fighters in the country is likely to face delays even though the Defence Ministry has notified request for information (RFI) from three firms to participate in the programme under the ‘Make in India’ initiative.

US aerospace giants Boeing and Lockheed Martin and Sweden’s SAAB have approached the government as a response to the RFI with their “unsolicited proposals” that have apparently failed to “impress” the Defence Ministry, a senior official told BusinessLine.

This is because, even though these companies have enumerated their plans to manufacture these jets under the ‘Make in India’ programme, the Ministry is keen on plans to transform India into an export hub for these jets, the official said.

Once the RFI is issued, the government floats Request for Proposals (RFPs) to shortlist the competing firms, according to norms. However, the government is learnt to be taking one step at a time in selecting the firm that will finally be chosen to manufacture the fighter jets here.

“The RFP will take time to be issued. A lot of factors need to be ascertained here apart from Make in India, logistics and infrastructure. The issue here is that once the armed forces buy these, what thereafter? Hence, export is a big factor, and indigenisation will play a crucial part in it,” the official said.*(Make in India for export LCAs! Cheaper and about equal in capability)

Boeing has already offered to manufacture their F/A-18 Super Hornet here with full transfer of technology (ToT) to their Indian joint venture partners. Lockheed Martin has gone a step ahead and said it will develop a warplane F-16 Block 70 exclusively for the Indian market. The US government is also aggressively pushing for these two under the US-India Defence Trade and Technology Initiative.

On the other side, Swedish SAAB has said it will build an entire industrial ecosystem in India under ‘Make in India’ for the Gripen E. Talks on selling the Gripen E were held during the visit of Swedish Prime Minister Stefan Lofven to India in February.

Air Chief Marshal Arup Raha had earlier said that the proposals from these three firms had been received by the government but nothing had been decided. “An early decision on indigenous ‘Make in India’ fighter aircraft project will greatly enhance our operational capability in the near term,” he had said during the Air Force Day earlier this month.

The Defence Ministry plans to replace the ageing MiG-21s with these fighter jets. Last month, India had finalised a $8.7-billion deal to procure 36 French Rafale warplanes.

http://defencenews.in/article/It-may-be-a-while-before-Govt%E2%80%99s-plan-to-build-fighter-jets-in-India-takes-off-28892

funny that even though it is supposed to be a single engine competition Boeing is still pushing the SH.

Aren’t there a little bit too many threads about Rafale in India and its cohabitation with other types atm? (no offense needed). I love Rafale, but i think some may get nausea hearing about it permanently…

I couldn’t agree more…

Israel didn’t mention Python V had a data link at first either.

Who’s that written by though, a Mercurius type I suspect, assuming that it doesn’t have one because of the brochure. These articles are often full of crap, just read the article on the fight against Daesh in July 2015 Combat Aircraft. One mistake after another, incorrect ranges, incorrect data, incorrect description of events.

Very weak game-over argument.

It’s been claimed that ASRAAM has no data link, but we don’t really know that. It has made OTS and LOAL shots and that is damn difficult without a data link, especially from 5+km away at low altitude. Think about that in terms of missile ranges at sea level.

No

ASRAAM is a short range high velocity missile. Give it a bearing prior to launch and it will find its way quickly enough to LOAL. IR seekers have a wide field of view it will manage to find its target at the right place…But of course that does not work at longe range. ASRAAM is no MICA : it doesn’t have the range and the datalink.

Yeah, less than twice the range of the MICA is truth. Finally, your poor grasp of English has led you to speak the truth.:applause:

So ASRAAM just happens to be the only LOAL capable missile in the world without a data link. Well okay now.:rolleyes:

Or if you prefer ASRAAM : 25km-30Km range max – MICA : max proven range: 67Km courtesy of Taiwan Air force. You get the idea.

Except we’ve just proved that the ASRAAM has equal or better range.

You think that the targets in the rear hemisphere can’t be datalinked from AWACS, ground radar or other fighters for ASRAAM too? The difference is that the ASRAAM can do it without that help if need be, the MICA and Rafale can’t.

Considering that ASRAAM has less than twice the range of the MICA it will be hard. And without a datalink its domain of use will remain vastly limited compared to the MICA. impossible to shoot backward effectively : shoot over the shoulder is a more appropriate description for ASRAAM…Backward would be some moment afterwards (after shooting over shoulder) as the aircrafts are moving relatively to one another. And this would only be effective at short range.

The MICA is far better: vastly superior range and it has a datalink. The aircraft with an ASRAAM would be dead well before it can retaliate faced with a MICA IR.