Fine…..if it makes you happy. 🙂
I knew someone would pull the “we had more than you had” card. RFC was founded in 1912 so they had six years and a war to develope their organisation. Finns got it right the first time and haven’t change it since then.
Put it another way…
…despite Britain being engaged in the First World War for four years and also maintaining the largest and most powerful navy in the world, the Royal Air Force (22,000 aircraft, 300,000 officers and men in November 1918) cannot claim to be the world’s first independent air force when it was officially formed on 1st April 1918 because…
…it was beaten to it by twenty-five days by the Finnish Air Force with one borrowed aeroplane! :diablo:
Finnish Air Force was founded after the first aeroplane was donated to it…
On the 1st April 1918 the Royal Air Force probably had (and I’m guessing) about a thousand aircraft…
…I know which country I think had the first independent air force! :diablo:
Wasn’t there an aviation fair at Nottingham East Midlands Airport [or whatever it’s called this week] just before Easter?
Don’t know…..didn’t hear anything about it but I went to an Aerojumble years ago at East Midlands Airport (I think).
Quite a strange affair really…..stalls set up all along the main terminal building with holidaying families struggling by with enormous suitcases…
…some engaged in the traditional airport holiday ritual…..of a blazing domestic! :diablo:
The UK has a world class restoration industry – dont knock it!
I agree; it is something that everybody here should appreciate.
I think it is important to remember exactly what a ‘Spitfire’ (for example) actually is. It is a mass-produced aircraft made from hundreds of thousands of individual pieces, many of which it is essential to replace if the aircraft is to be maintained airworthy for any length of time.
To my mind any manufactured parts that are within the original designed specification are indistinguishable from each other…
…and so surely it follows that any Spitfire assembled from such parts isn’t a replica or reproduction Spitfire…..it is a Spitfire!
Any other discussion is purely academic (and so ideal for internet forums). If we want to be pedantic we could say that few here have ever even seen a Spitfire flying…..sure we’ve seen some replica paint flying…
…but since none of that paint is ‘original’ we haven’t actually seen the Spitfire obscured by it!
Don’t forget also that in a very few years nobody who was involved in the design, manufacture, maintenance or operation of ‘original’ Spitfires will be left alive. Without the considerable efforts of the restoration industry all Spitfires would be very quickly grounded.
In my opinion the ‘preservation’ of historic aircraft should also include the preservation of the skills required to design, manufacture and maintain these important icons of engineering, and what better way to preserve these important skills than to develop them into a self-supporting commercial industry that supports the airworthy aircraft that we all admire?
I have already expressed a personal view that the new events at Newark might spell the end for Whitwick. 🙁
I’ve always enjoyed Whitwick but I think a Museum makes the perfect venue for an Aerojumble.
I went to the last one at Newark and the one held a Brooklands and although I didn’t buy much I felt that neither trip was wasted as I got to have a good look round the museums (neither of which I had been to in years) and also spent some money in the café and shop in both cases. Can’t remember if there was a concession to get into the museum in either case; probably.
Surely this is the way to go; shouldn’t it be a win-win for everybody?
Wow, that was quick! 😀
Any particular reason that it didn’t happen?
The reduction gears ratio is greater than 0.5:1 probably in the 0.6:1 to 0.7:1 range…..did you count the teeth? 😀
My guess would be Bramo-Fafnir 323.
Farman type reduction gears so must be a radial but not a Bristol radial.
Looks German to me so that should narrow it down a bit.
A big negative on polished aircraft…..is that you remove metal every time you polish it.
I did wonder about this; aren’t aircraft skinned in ‘Alclad’ and isn’t there a danger that polishing will remove the (very thin) outer coating of corrosion resistant pure aluminium?
Of course, there are the American Airlines BAe 146’s, which, when polished effectively scrapped them…
Go on…
Weapons are prohibited on merchant vessels, end of story.
Even small-arms? That does surprise me.
Start killing Pirates just because they ARE Pirates…
Not really sure I understand your argument here (although I take the point about the hostages) are you suggesting that shooting at pirates would somehow be prejudiced against these pirates who are only pirates because of the piracy that they carry out?
I agree that it’s only a small problem now, and so far seems to be being carried out as a relatively civilised ‘business’, but if it is as lucrative as it seems to be for the pirates, what is to stop it growing until it is a very big problem?
Weapons are prohibited on merchant vessels, end of story.
Even small-arms? That does surprise me.
Start killing Pirates just because they ARE Pirates…
Not really sure I understand your argument here (although I take the point about the hostages) are you suggesting that shooting at pirates would somehow be prejudiced against these pirates who are only pirates because of the piracy that they carry out?
I agree that it’s only a small problem now, and so far seems to be being carried out as a relatively civilised ‘business’, but if it is as lucrative as it seems to be for the pirates, what is to stop it growing until it is a very big problem?
The Morris Motors bit is a brilliant red herring. It looks as if – lord alone knows why – the propeller has at some point been mounted on a vintage Morris front wheel hub!
Exactly! In fact I was so distracted by this ‘red herring’ that I completely missed that the seller had (as it turns out) correctly identified the engine type – ABC Hornet (thanks G-ASEA)…..air-cooled flat four…..ahead of its time!
The Morris hub was presumably intended to allow the propeller to rotate…..suggestions on a postcard? :confused:
I came across this video link while doing some research.
From the BBC series ‘History Detectives’ first shown 2nd November 2007…..nice to see it again.
The programme / crash featured in a couple of threads at the time:
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=75644&highlight=Lancaster
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=65284&highlight=lancaster+engines+recovered
If I’m in the bakers buying a sticky bun that’s right in front of me, then that’s the FRONT of the counter,it sure as hell ain’t the back.
Ah…but you’re not operating the sticky-bun counter…..the baker is…
…and the front of the counter is in-front of the baker when he is in the correct operating position. 🙂