Not Spadeadam, Woomera in South Australia.
The rocket was test fired but never launched in the UK.
I suspected it could have been Woomera but didn’t know Blue Streak was never launched in the UK – a great shame!
Google aerial photo of Spadeadam here:
It is difficult to see from the aerial photo but there are three concrete ‘test-stands’ for the Blue Streak ICBM built into the hillside. You can see the shadows cast by the concrete walls to the south of the east-west central road. Note also the Su-22 on the other side of the road from the west test-stand.
Short clip of a Blue Streak ICBM test launch (unfortunately without sound) at RAF Spadeadam on YouTube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0a73ctJIP0
Enjoy! 🙂
Saw a woodpecker today, the first of the year, and it looked just like they are supposed to, all green and red but a bit scruffy with it. It was just sitting by the side of the road and didn’t even move when I drove (slowly) past.
Do woodpeckers eat carrion? I know they are supposed to eat grubs and things but the road in question always has lots of rabbits on it, and usually quite a few which have been run over.
Saw a woodpecker today, the first of the year, and it looked just like they are supposed to, all green and red but a bit scruffy with it. It was just sitting by the side of the road and didn’t even move when I drove (slowly) past.
Do woodpeckers eat carrion? I know they are supposed to eat grubs and things but the road in question always has lots of rabbits on it, and usually quite a few which have been run over.
Leonard Cheshire VC did 102 operations for Bomber Command, most of them in Whitley, Halifax and Mosquito aircraft.
Possibly not the highest total but his VC was awarded for ‘sustained courage’.
Does anyone know the exact big end to small end distance of the Merlin conrods? I want to make a rough kinematic model.
Not exact, but it’s approximately 252.75mm (measured) so possibly 9.950” as designed?
Is this what you had in mind?
Yikes! 😮
Something like that…but not quite so heavily engineered. 🙂
Why not extend the tube spars-caps right up to the bend and reduce the number of fixing bolts by about 80%…the way it’s drawn the wing would come off the fuselage about 10g before that spar bent! 😀
This would massively reduce the size of the plate and the amount of milling required.
Are you saying that he should mill the inner spar caps out of the spar joining plate?
You’ll have to forgive my ignorance of the structure of the original, particularly the spar attachment points, but I don’t see any real problem with doing this.
In other words creating an I-beam out of the spar joining plate?
Effectively, yes. Of course you would then need to carefully join the ‘inner spar’ to the ‘outer spar’ but the proposed solution already includes a huge amount of milling.
The problem I’m facing is trying to come up with a spar concept that mimics but simplifies RJ Mitchell’s original design.
I simply do not have the machinery to bend tubes and then get them back to a predictable level of temper or hardness to do their job properly. My way is to perhaps over-compensate, at the penalty of adding weight, by building a spar that acts the same but fabricates differently than the real McCoy. I can mill parts out, or worst case, have someone else do it.
So, I have yet another iteration of the spar concept. This mod deals with my concern for the way the heavy root chunk abruptly ends, and then you’re left with just web plates and channels. I want a smooth transition in cross-sectional thickness as you move from root to tip.
Notice how I have tried to use the step-down method of reducing the beefiness of the heavy root chunk as you move toward the wing tip. This is done both on the web area and the top and bottom flanges as I hope you can see.
Can I make a suggestion?
Looking at your latest drawing and comparing it to the drawing kindly supplied by Chumpy I think you have already solved the problem.
The portion of the spar with the bends is incorporated within your milled-from-solid ‘spar mounting plate’ beyond that the spar-caps are straight so you could build them up from nested tube as in the original.
Your problem then is to join the shorter nested spar-caps to your ‘spar mounting plate’ but because at this point the original (bent) nested spar-caps are effectively solid you should have plenty of material (and weight) to play with.
Effectively you are just moving the spar mounting out past the bend in the spar.
I have done a few mods to my replica Spit wing spar. The purpose here is to reduce any stress riser points (I’m a little concerned with where the thick stub mounting plate meets the angles) and also to add a middle web plate that was absent on the previous design.
Comments are welcome…
Interesting spar drawing.
I haven’t had time to read in detail every post in this thread but at first glance your spar doesn’t look stiff enough.
You are obviously a very practical engineer and, quite rightly, have only ‘designed’ what you can make but those tricky Spitfire spar-cap tubes are there for a reason.
It is difficult to visualise but (returning to your practical approach) imagine one of your angle-section spar caps say 8 feet long. Now imagine putting a pipe wrench at the mid-point and twisting the spar cap as hard as you can – twists quite a bit doesn’t it.
Now imagine putting a pipe wrench at the mid-point and trying to twist the same ‘weight’ of square-tube spar cap that much – hard work isn’t it?
I hope this may help but at the end of the day it’s your project. If you get more satisfaction out of designing your own spars instead of building something that somebody else has designed then you go for it.
Even if you never fly it, even if you never do more than the spars, it is unique, it’s yours and nobody can take it away from you. I can respect that.
I’m also wondering if it could be intended for a high speed boat – perhaps an outrigger or similar. The thirties (looks about the right era to me) was a hive of interesting designs there.
Other ‘naval’ possibilities:
Towed target for naval gunfire? Although much too expensively constructed for this I think.
High-speed minesweeping gear? But obviously too lightly constructed and clearly designed for surface as opposed to underwater use. :confused:
High-speed (non-expendable) towed radar target? Simulating E-boat for training destroyer crews? :rolleyes:
Floats for Spitfire! :diablo:
Also the ‘step’ is a long, long way back.
Indeed, As I said 😉
Oops…sorry, mustn’t skim read posts in a rush! 😮
Yes its the right length but isn’t it too wide for a racer? The racing floats are about half that width – to reduce frontal area and therefore drag.
Yes, agreed, it does look a bit ‘fat’ for a racer but I just wanted to get an idea of the overall size.
For example the underwing floats on a Supermarine Southampton (similar wooden hull construction – not sure about floats) are only about 12 feet long.
Short Singapore underwing floats are about 14 feet long but also much ‘fatter’.
If they are underwing floats, and they could well be, they must be from something big.
So my thinking is expensive-build, single-engined, twin-float racing seaplane from 1920’s – 1930’s.
Also, obviously, no engine-coolant ‘radiators’ built into the floats. 😉
Still thinking out loud. 🙂
Notice the profile of the step edges in the last photo?
They are not symmetrical, one looks straight the other is curved so this must be one of a pair of floats.
Also somebody has gone to an awful lot of trouble to make that curve in a wooden float (for a marginal advantage) which would suggest to me these were from a racing machine rather than some service seaplane.
Just to give some idea of the size – the floats on the Supermarine S6 were just less than 21 feet long.
Also the ‘step’ is a long, long way back.
Just thinking out loud. 🙂
I think that the original specification called for a jettisonable crew compartment…
I’ve not heard that about the Vulcan but it was certainly true of the Victor.
I’ve always thought it could have been due to wartime experience with the Lancaster.
How many accounts had there been of pilots ‘holding it steady’ while the rest of the crew baled-out only to be lost themselves.
Even in its intended high-level role I don’t think there would have been much chance for the rear crew in a shot-down Vulcan; the speeds and g-forces involved would have made escape very difficult.
In the end (as has been said) it probably came down to cost.
Of the Vulcans lost in accidents I think only one complete crew managed to survive.