Hi Tony,
The IAC scheme was nothing to do with me, I preferred the silver one anyway! From comparisons done with items of the RX168 Seafire project just before PV202 went into the current scheme, the colour used on the IAC scheme was very close if not spot on. The RX168 wing root panels etc are quite faded and I would expect them to have been a more full bodied shade when originally delivered. The spinner colour was definitely not the right one though! When it got repainted last time, it was noteworthy that the IAC scheme had faded quite significantly.
Hi TJ,
I’ll have a think about this. I can certainly say that when HFL started up it was rebuilding Spitfires to a high standard from day 1, but their initial aircraft were very complete unlike today’s projects. The original buyer of TD248 had his aircraft customised to his requirements and all the first aircraft were done for external clients. When HFL changed hands the new owner Karel Bos bought the subsequent projects and had them rebuilt to an in-house standard and then they were placed up for sale. BM597 was the last Spitfire completed (from the initial batch) for an external client, this being the Historic Aircraft Collection. Some later projects since moving to Duxford have been sold and then rebuilt to a contract agreed with the client and this is largely the norm these days. I’ll give this a bit more attention and get back to you.
Which scheme was wrong?
A single bay hangar would do a great deal to ease hangar crowding and could be used for specialised exhibitions of themed aspects of history such as WW1&2, far east, Cold War, the maritime war etc and could become an established educational facility for the many school parties that visit the site. It could also be used for corporate events and even quilt shows to give Pen Pusher some new shots!
Shame they turned down the free offer of those Belfast Truss hangars from RAF Bracebridge Heath some years ago…
He was creating what he considered to be the most refined Spitfire incorporating technical features which he had in his experience found to be the best available and giving the optimum handling and operating features. The leading edge wing tanks on PT462 are the feature incorporated from the PRXI and the short span ailerons were a feature of the MkXIV for example. The wheels were new manufacture and of the optimum size. Dick Melton had gained a lot of experience within the RAF and during his time with BBMF and as the Chief Engineer with Doug Arnold’s Warbirds of Great Britain. His selection by Charles Church as his Chief Engineer was no surprise, he was doing a fair bit of freelance work by then and had done work with Nick Grace amongst others. All the mods were accepted design features on varying marks, he just cherry picked those that would give the performance and features he found the most suited to the Spitfires he and his team were building at the workshop at Micheldever at that time. He,his team and his employer were making great strides towards the manufacture of “hard-to-get” components such as five blade prop hubs and undercarriage legs when Charles Church was killed in the crash of “EE606″/G-MKVC. As a result of this, the operation wound down and the collection was dispersed and the workshop closed and the material and machinery sold off. A large number of items were acquired by an engineer at Bartow in the US and were shipped out there. The aeroplanes were scattered across the globe and most have continued to fly or been finished off some years later in new ownership such as Spitfire RR262. From memory those ex-Charles Church projects that have yet to be finished or in some cases progressed would include Spitfire FRXIV MV262 and Lancaster KB976/G-BCOH. The ex-Strathallan Fairy Battle that was in the pipeline for restoration ended up in Belgium after a complex exchange for Spitfire RN201.
How about a nice civilian racing scheme in Oxford Blue and Gold pinstripes… 😎
Always very exciting to see new images from behind the scenes. These private collection images always have something special and different from the normal ones that get published. Many thanks for letting us see them.
Roobarb
These crazy prices are down to an article being published in Britain at War by some bloke writing about collecting B of B film memorabilia and how much money there was in it… :rolleyes:
FRXIVc low back, x4 cannon with strobes and finished in Red with a white/blue pin-stripe… 😎
RAFRochford;
It was dumped down the back behind the hangar and the fence along with a load of bits like Vampire wings and the Cornell, sort of behind and round the corner from where the Viscount nose and Anson ended up just before the closure. It wasn’t there long as it headed off to Kent for an aborted rebuild and that’s where Spencer got hold of it. Ashford maybe?
Always wondered where the Robot ended up after the auction and where he came from in the first place. As for age, well I still have my copy of the Evening Echo special about the opening of the Museum with a lovely picture of the CASA 2-111D INSIDE the hangar!!! Fast forward to January 2015 and there I am working on the very same “Spanish Heinkel” at ARC at Duxford! In another twist of fate I was working in the less sumtuous end of the National Airways hangar on Rod and Rex Cadman’s Invader in the mid/late 1980’s when I was asked to help move an aeroplane out of the posh end for our landlord, the then owner of National Airways. The aeroplane was a lovely P51 “Sunny VIII” and the owner/our landlord – Spencer Flack!
Awesome machine and scheme. Looks better than when I knew it at Southend Historic Aircraft Museum 😎
Exactly.
Hi Tony T,
Ha ha ha, you should have been a rigger then! Even though the weather was crap it was a great show and the lightning take off thing was incredible. We took the Sherpa cruising the seafront at Cleethorpes in the evening and checked out the local watering facilities and some place on the pier, Pier 39 or something? Glad to know you were busy grafting and keeping the Orange forces at bay… 😉
Roobarb
I think you’ll find it is for one of Richard’s clients.
I was there working as groundcrew for the 45 Sqn/TWCU Tornado GR.1. It was lovely and sunny on the Friday when we arrived and we had a great look around all of the Binbrook Hangars and took lots of photo’s out on the pan etc. Different story on the Saturday! Yuk. I was staying in probably the most derelict transit accommodation I ever encountered in the RAF, my room had a huge part of the floor with a massive hole in it! We were in huts that looked straight out of “The Great Escape” ( I think the hole was an escape tunnel!) . Great weekend though and the stories of traffic tailbacks as people tried to get in were legendary. Happy days 🙂