Neither Alpha Jet or YA-9 influenced Su-25 one bit – the configuration is simply very orthodox and convenient and replicated many many times.

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Unsuccessful design – lacked range.

Even with D-30 turbofans?

I don’t know if it would work but if you do that you can’t make an evasive maneuver. It would be very dangerous because you’re pointing right at the missile.

How about a rear facing gunpod with self contained sensors? The F-35B has a centerline gunpod.

In othernews:

http://www.business-standard.com/article/economy-policy/rafale-proposal-effectively-dead-as-dassault-bid-not-cheapest-115021600056_1.html

Christ the MMRCA competition literally wasted thousands of man years of time for all those involved. Talk about all hat no cattle.

Seems the Argentine President went to China and made a racist tweet about Chinese people. Smooth negotiator. :eagerness:

I think this last statement was a bit exaggerated, as the MiG-29, as a lo part of the mix wasn’t primarily tasked with BVR, yet still had at least rudimentary BVR capability, in contrary to the F-16 which was gun and winders only until the ADF version came into service.

In all fairness, the main problem with most comparisons is that the Fulcrum did not get its “C” version as F-16 did, until fairly recently (SMT, then M1/M2 -> 35), as well as the fact that foreign pilots never got their hands on a full blown Russian variant (mostly 9.13 + some 9.13S). A first hand report from USAF testing of the ex-Moldovan MiG-29s would surely be an interesting read (especially the effectiveness of the non-export radar, IRST and Gardeniya jammer)

That’s the problem with those arguing the Fulcrum was just as good with later upgrades. Yeah well how many of these late model Fulcrums were in service during the mid 90s when this pilot flew F-16C? How does the latest model Fulcrum stack up against contemporary F-16 with AIM-9X? Only contemporary comparisons matter. Else we’re talking about alternative universe.

Not a good sight.

Looks like its wingtip struck that van. This airline had a major incident last July too. I flew with them a couple of years ago, also an ATR 72 I believe. :apologetic:

That’s because it’s the only one from the group design of which started from an interceptor (the Su-15) and not the other way around. Thus, you don’t have to wonder much since the Su-24 was never going to get readapted back to the interceptor role.

Well you wouldn’t know it to look at it.