Elliott,
It has probably been asked before but why do you think that large sections of whitley at a number of crashes were left by the RAF recovery teams? It seems that they recovered all of other crashed aircraft (because of my interest I am thinking about Typhoons in particular) in what seems like more difficult circumstances…were they really inaccessible at the time and it is only with more modern equipment that they can be recovered? Was it because of the type…or is it basically unknown and it was just lucky for all enthusiasts that the sections survived so that perhaps one day we can see a complete whitley.
Looking at your list of surviving parts…will the RAF museum be interested in seeing the rear fuseage incorporated into your project or will it be down to allow access to it to enable you to build a new one?
just to remind anyone who is interested…the first open day for the Comet Racer Project (Black Magic) is this sunday (3rd) from 1-4. If you are interested see the web site for the address and contact number for Derby Airfield….
Hope to see some of you there
depends on who or where you approach. It is essentially the same as all industries, if you don’t really want to do it then quote a high price…if the customer then says go ahead then you can’t really lose (well 9 times out of 10) 🙂
It always amuses me the general negative reaction to many of the rebuilds, new manufacture or general research into rare types of aircraft. My interest lies in Typhoons aswell, which may or may not be known :), and whenever any queries come up the Sabre always jumps to the top of the pile as to why a second complete Typhoon will never happen. Perhaps it is the optimist in me but there a number of very good engines in existence to complete the job…however with no structure in front of you it would be very hard to convince anyone to part with their engine. However, if you had the structure of a Typhoon sat there waiting for an engine they would be more willing to listen to you. Will it ever happen? I hope so (and I still plan on it 12 years after being hooked) but without drawings or a substantial recovery it would be very hard. We all have to start somewhere…drawings are a necessity and in particular main cockpit spar drawings 🙂
Now if anyone happens to have a set of drawings or lots of Typhoon bits hidden in their shed I would love to hear from them 🙂
wasn’t sure if I was allowed to…should come up in search engines but here it is anyway http://www.cometracer.co.uk
Interesting to see their response and trying their best to make it a rarer than it is…I could be wrong 🙂 but I don’t remember seeing any references to a Tempest II defending against V1’s!!! also Tempest II do have 2 aircraft but they also have in store another 2 that are privately owned…these are the ones that I believe were on the market at some point in the 90’s.
Reading between the lines in their reply and knowing what others were asking for a Tempest I wouldn’t be suprised if they were actually asking for a figure in the 100’s of thousands of dollars…however a figure of 50k would be nice (but I can’t see it somehow!!)
You have PM Bazza
I thought this one had made its way to the US…good to see that it is still in Europe (for long?). As for value…a number of years ago (in the 90’s) there were a couple of the Tempests reportedly for sale for £40,000 each. A couple of years ago I was quoted $500,000 for the Tempest currently in the US (at the time I think the wings had been restored but nothing else). Neither sold for the price…could it be because of lack of knowledge about the type? expertise on the type?
I would love to take it off their hands…alas even without asking and even in todays climate I can imagine that the price is still high. Will be interesting to see if it is sold…
I don’t remember reading about the Typhoon canopy…could this be confused with a typhoon cowling that was lost in flight and found in some woods? currently part of Roger Marley’s cockpit. If it was a canopy from a typhoon (assuming it is a bubble one and not one of the car doors) it would be interesting to know where this is now…
you wouldn’t happen to have any contact details for him would you? 🙂
do you have any other info on Aviation Artefacts? A quick search on the net and it didn’t seem to pull anything up apart from your previous post!!!
haven’t heard of Aviation Artifacts…are they still around?
could the Tempest be EJ551, 14/11/44, F/O J.A.L Johnson engine failure bailed out 1m east of Standon Herts?
That looks like a new engine for the list…something to prove exists still? Could this be the one that is with a collector in the Manchester area (reported to have blocks that a corroded like the pictures). Will add it to the list and hope it is another proved to exist.
I have not been able to confirm that JP656 and the engine at Caen are one in the same. JP656 was Flight Sergeant John Rowland’s aircraft and I do know that the engine was taken to be displayed at an open day but there is no record of it being donated.
Anyone able to positively confirm this?
Does anyone have any detailed pictures of the remains on display at Bayeux? I have a couple of shots of one Sabre but there was lots more on the edges of the pictures. Would love to know what they have exactly.