Hi Ken,
Just a thought…have you tried contacting any of the companies at Duxford (or any other simiar operation)? They have aircraft shipped back and forth and may be able to point you in the direction of someone they use or if you are lucky you may be able to be included in their next shipment.
Good luck
Paul,
I started ‘educating’ my daughter as soon as we were looking at books…she sits there with my copy of the latest aircraft magazines and flicks through them. She can recognise many of the types and knows her dad’s aeroplane is a Typhoon, her mum’s is a Mustang (because she is American!) and she chose initially the Whirlwind as hers (because it has more engines than her dads!!) but because I couldn’t take her to see one she adopted the Beaufighter 🙂 We go by ‘Spitfire’ island in Castle Bromwich occassionally and can recognise the spitfires. She is not 4 until January and people tell me I am corrupting her 🙂
From the research I have done (although the numbers of Typhoons seems a bit high) there were in excess of 900 Typhoons, 1500 B-24’s & B-17’s and unknown number of Mosquito’s and various other types. The site was very active with training and maintenance…this is probably where many of the Wellington parts came from.
Would be very interested for a further chat….sent you PM
cheers
Dave
Hi Jerry,
been a while since I have seen you post on here….sent you a PM!!!
Cheers
Dave
As it is part of my interest I always have to stick up for the Sabre…no other engine was rushed into service as quickly as the Sabre (you could probably include the vulture in that category but look what Rolls Royce did with that!!). It needed at least another couple of years of ‘shakedown’ (for the want of a better word). Testing was basically completed in the field in combat…eventually the problems were overcome and I have been told that the Sabre was as reliable as the Merlin. If you then move onto the Sabre engined Tempest there were not that many engine failures outside of combat damage and they soldiered on well into the 1950’s with the TT.5’s. Can’t have been that bad if the RAF carried on using them.
MN235 was only tested for a few hours in the states before a landing mishap meant it needed a new engine. A spare engine made it out but it was never put back in the air. I have seen Hendons documentation on the status of it when delivered back to the UK and I don’t remember the engine being one of the missing items, cowlings, aeileron, cannons and various other parts were missing. I believe that the engine could well be the original unit still installed. The smithsonian have a complete Sabre engine sitting on a pallet that was ‘found’ in one of their stores when inventory was taken. The history is not known but it is believed that this was the spare unit intended to get it back in the air.
I couldn’t resist answering on my favourite subject…Typhoons & Sabres. There are a couple of dozen Sabre engines in existence (that I have conformed so far that is). From the ones I have seen (in person and in photographs) there are at least 7 that could be considered suitable for rebuild with time, knowledge and of course cash!!
It would be interesting to know where the ‘dozens’ of sectioned Sabre engines went. I can only think of 4 off the top of my head
Duxford (donated by Cambridge university, engineering department)
Hendon (in front of MN235)
Canda (Science Museum…notes at home so can’t remember the location)
Sweden (not 100% sure if Sweden is the location…I do have a photograph and location on the computer at home)
The RAF Museum have 3 RR Vulture engines…2 from the same Manchester (dug up from somewhere in Lincolnshire if I remember correctly). 2 are in store and a third (I presume the best of the 3) is on loan to Rolls Royce. I saw the ones in store and they are not bad….in fact I would love to see one in a Tornado recreation 🙂 even though there are far fewer vultures than sabres there may be a better chance if these seeing the light of day!!!
thanks for the replies…I had heard a number of years ago that Birmingham originally had 2 Hurricanes, Spitfire and a Beaufighter (all complete). The Hurricane and Spitfire are obviously the ones on display and the Hurricane and Beaufighter diasppeared….I was told that they could still be in one of the many huge stores dotted around the Birmingham area. If this cockpit is indeed the Birmingham one then it seems as though the rest of the Beaufighter may have been claimed by the scrap man after all!!! is the cockpit on loan from Birmingham or was it gifted to the Midland Air Museum?
Thanks for all the replies…I was after Peter Himself as I had a question for him.
Thanks again
thanks for the advice…
Picture is labelled Typhoon…it isn’t typhoon (no space for the oil cooler in the centre of the radiator….and it look way too small!!)
I am speechless…..I take it they were actually scrapped? Would have thought it was alot of effort to split the stainless steel, castings and tubes from the Typhoon…wouldn’t have left alot of steel!!!
did I remember correctly that this happened in the 1990’s? what were they thinking when they got rid of all those items….I would have thought that at that time they would have been worth more to the museum being sold to collectors than the scrap man