Just a long shot….but are there any Typhoon or Tornado drawings in your collection?
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Dave
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fao Tangmere (A little off the original subject)
Tangmere,
Just a quick query….do you have any association with the museum that had the Typhoon parts recovered from Pagham harbour? Feel free to PM me if you are 🙂
Dave
the Sabre at Duxford is the ex Cambridge University example in the engine list compiled by RR
Yes a Typhoon cockpit was scrapped because it wasn’t wanted anymore…and it wasn’t the 70’s….try the 90’s!!!!
Cees,
The Pegham Harbour Typhoon was scrapped when the museum it was housed in decided they no longer wanted it!!! Apparently it was just shipped out to a local scrap dealer.
I do know that there are lots if items in France but I have never been able to find any contacts there to find out exactly what. There are a number of engines and one in particulay could well be made to run with the right people involved (the Paris science museum). I would love to hear from anyone that may know someone in France with any knowledge of Typhoon recoveries.
The list that you refer to Roger has some anomolies in it. There are a couple that seem to be referencing the same engine and one of them seem to not exist at all (the ATC example). There are many others that do not appear on the list.
My research has located a couple of dozen Sabre engines…these range from the ones that could potentially run again to sea recoveries.
I am sure I read somewhere that the RAF musuems Tempest V used to be fired up (during the 60’s?) otherwise I would think the late fifties was the last time a Sabre was fired up.
Haven’t heard much about Kermits Tempest. Last time I saw it there was steady progress. They are still not certain that it will fly (although all the work is being done to an airworthy standard).
The radiator is cut down from a truck. Most of the cowls were missing when it came back from the US and were remanufactured when first rebuilt…they are v good copies. The engine is its original and only has 9 hours on it!!! Not sure if it would turn over now though 🙂
Various other items were missing but replaced from stock.
I have spoken with people who have a heavy involvement with the CAA in the everyday running of their business. The general topic of a Sabre engined aircraft being granted a certificate has come up before….there is no specific reason why a certificate couldn’t be issued. The main hold up would be the individual involved in a rebuild and them having effective comminication during the entire course of the rebuild (with the CAA). By the end of the war (and while the Tempests were being used as TT) I am lead to believe that the Sabre was as reliable as any piston engine available at the time (upwards of 50hrs between rebuilds)…it had finally been given the chance to bed in correctly.
I have great hope that one day there will be a Sabre Engined aircraft flying….what a noise that would make :)…and I would love to be involved in it!!!
As for building Typhoons without the drawings as they have done with the Boomerangs….I believe it would be possible once Hendon rotate MN235 for conservation and measurements of the wings can be taken (must be due soon as she is looking very tired after 30 years on display). Everything else exists in one form or another just not wings, unless some of the rumoured wings exist on the continent!!!
I would love to hear from anyone with information about drawings…any rumours/information or drawings themselves. I have been trying to trace the drawings for years and have hit nothing but brick walls. The manuals still exist at Hendon and they did have the drawings until the early 90’s. Unfortunately they were requested back by a certain manufacturer that no longer allows copies of them to be made….or even anyone like me to see them!!! Any help appreciated….
Cees,
It would be possible to collect Typhoon parts in the UK if people/groups were willing to part with their items. Unfortunately they are not so another Typhoon will have to remain spread around 🙁 As for the wreck you mention…if it is the one that I am thinking of then as far as I know it doesn’t exist anymore as it was dragged further out to prevent causing damage to local fishing vessels and was destroyed in the process. Any more specifics on the one you are thinking of?
I do know of enough parts in existence to complete the main part of a Typhoon and the wings can be remanufactured as they are a simple design (and there are enough crash damaged parts to provide vital information). One day there will be a second Typhoon….1 is just not enough for me 🙂
there are at least 2 vultures in store with the RAF musuem with a third one on loan to RR. The one on loan and the one that I saw (pretty reasonable condition) were recovered by the RAF in the 70’s from a Manchester crash. The other I believe was a sea recovery.
ACSS suffered an undercarriage collapse last year…I am not sure how far advanced the repair is or indeed if it has been completed. As far as I am aware ACSS is or will still be airworthy but I think they are not flying it at present because of shortage of willing pilot(s) and I am not sure if they have completed the runway extension that is required for the safe operation of ACSS (assuming that the repairs have been completed).
the CAA have deemed that G-ACSP is original and can retain its original registration…as far as they are concerned it is not a replica it is an original.