As aside, does anyone know what the status of Air Atlantique’s Proctor is? and when are we likely to see it in the air again?
Steve
Hi Dave,
Do you have any pictures?
Thanks in anticipation Steve.
Hobby horse of mine…..
Do Brooklands have any plans to get the airlinners under cover?
Steve.
Lets get one point straight the only reason any project or enterprise fails is bad/poor management – be that due to over optimism, inability to see changing circumstances and react to them, poor business planning, lack of control, poor comunication, bad relationship management etc etc etc.
To infer that people should not criticise because it damages the chances of a fatally flawed project being rescued, is ‘ostritch’ politics. As much as I would love to see a Vulcan fly again, I believe the money could have been much better spent. People have moaned about the scrapping of the BA collection at Cosford – well the money wasted upon this flight of fantasy would have saved them.
Steve.
Hi Phillip,
Often the level of ecconomic niavity in this coutry is staggering, both Andy and your threads really put the Vulcan project in perspective; and your quite right if I was the director of a potential major sponsor I wouldn’t touch it with a barge pole.
Steve
Oh, well no harm in dreaming, probably more chance of an airworthy Wessex though than say a Vulcan………
Steve
Hi,
Question: is this the worlds biggest collection of helicopters?
Moan: why can’t we see we see more airworthy vihnatge choppers – especially a Wessex.
Steve
PS. Love the photos!
TT,
Is this a complete Stirling in Wastwater? and are there any ppictures?
Thanks Steve.
Stuart whatever happens, as a species, we will make the same mistakes and continue to perpetrate attrocities. Since the Second World War I can think of several genocides straight off Rawanda, Serbia, The Killing Fields of Cambodia and there are many more cases which are less well known or might be considered borderline.We might dress it up as ‘ethnic cleansing,’ ‘re-settlement’ or any other euthamism we care to invent, but at the end of the day its still genocide and it has always gone on and probably allways will (Depressing).
However the more people we can educate about man’s capacity for inhumanity, the higher should be the resistance within society to repititions. However as new history is being generated everyday, much of it with more direct relevance to peoples lives, it becomes harder highlighting the titanic struggles of the 20th centuary.
Steve
I remember talking with an exceptionally interesting historian about the way we percieve history. Her argument went something like this:
Collectively we are far more concerned with the history that lies within living memory. This is because we have had ‘human contact’ with these events, be it first hand or through interaction with someone who was there, such as listening to a Grand Father who was at the Somme. A consequence of this is that interest in any given period starts to decline fairly rapidly after about a hundred years.
If this is true (and from casual observation I do believe there is something in this idea), then 60 years on we probably already have children in this country who will NEVER hear about the Second World War from someone who was there – and to these kids it will therefore seem far more distant and less relevant.
The danger here of cause is that humanity’s darkest hour will fade and be largely forgotten. This may seem incredible but how much real discussion of the Napoleonic wars is there? and yet in his day Napolean was probably as revilled as Hitler.
So do we really think that in 2045 there will be widespread interest in Spitfire wrecks or that war graves will be as revered as today – where are the dead from Waterloo?
Time moves on, and perhaps surprisingly so does the past as it is reinterpreted for the age. It may well be that ecconomic decline, a retreat into a fantasy of cyberspace, social collapse or something totally unforeseable will wipe out our interest in the past.
Given this I think that the merits of recovery verses leaving in place for the future are probably fairly evenly balance.
Steve.
Anything by Captain Eric ‘Winkle’ Brown – his writtings upon flying different types are inspiring.
Steve.
Shuttleworth……go and judge for yourself, you won’t be disappointed!
Steve
I like quotes – especially wise ones. We can learn a lot from them and generally people who quote ‘luminaries’ are widely read and have encountered many ideas.
My personal favourite from Ghandi…..
‘Even if you are a minority of one, the truth, is still the truth’
Steve.
PS. Allison what does your latin tag mean?
Hi,
Mainly budget airline 737s and A320s coming and going from Luton, fair number of private jets doing the same, oh yes and the Police Helicopter is normally buzzing around (normally at 3am above my bedroom).
Steve
Hi David,
In interesting idea, can you tell us more about the drones. I assume they are from Llanbedr, but would that not mean they had been shot down and so might be rather fragmentary?
Steve.