Didn’t the Israelis actually receive the blueprints, drawings or whatever from Dassault through unofficial or even illegal channels in the 1960s?
In keeping with the heli-hauling theme – Chad sometime in the 1980s. The Mi-24 is, I think, Libyan, the Chinook American.
Not sure if you’re being serious with the emoticon attached.;)
The Mirage F1 was smaller, faster, had superior range, double the payload, could climb much faster, had a higher operational ceiling etc etc.
I have no idea what the manoevreability comparison between the two were, although I suspect the F1 would be superior here too. It certainly was half a ton lighter, whilst having a superior dry thrust. The nosecone design of the F8 Crusader provided limited space. The F1 was also a newer generation fighter, with all the advantages that entailed.
How can you be sure of the above performance superiority of a navalized F1 on the F-8? Remember any carrier borne version of the F1 is going to be up to 15-20% heavier than the standard F1 due to airframe strengthening.
I would say the An-72 has no equivalent in the West!
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There was a similar aircraft in the ‘West’! YC-14:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_YC-14
Although the nearest Western equivalent aircraft that actually entered service would probably be the Aeritalia G.222. Field performance might be similar?
They could have replaced 3 types, the Etendard, the then-proposed Super Etendard, and the F8 Crusader, with a single airframe.
Why would they want to replace the F-8 with the F1 – surely the Vought is the better fighter?;)
It may sound like a slow tempo of testing, 100 sorties in the space of 21 months, but:
Although many of the initial flight test targets have been accomplished, the F-35 testing program completed “just under 100 sorties and about as many hours in 2.5 years” by June 2009 and was falling significantly behind schedule.[215] A 2008 Pentagon Joint Estimate Team (JET I) estimated that the program was two years behind the latest public schedule, and a 2009 Joint Estimate Team (JET II) revised that estimate to predict a 30-month delay.[216]
Who says, it had to be AK-47:confused:
It could be larger Cal. like 12.7mm or 20mm anti air guns.
I think that is what’s meant by ‘small arms’ fire, at the very minimum 12.7 mm DShK or something like that.
It’s very rare that you can even shoot down a helicopter at close range with an assault rifle?:confused:
I have no knowledge of the Vietnam/F-111 case (too young you see), but there are plenty of cases where infantry fire has provided mission or hard-kills, e.g.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/report/call/call_2-88_chpt4.htm
Interesting document, but it mainly refers to the number of helicopters shot down by small arms fire, which is certainly possible. But an F-111 is just a little bit faster and would not be carrying out a mission profile that would allow infantrymen the time to take aim and fire.
The fact is: incredible claims can only be supported by some incredible evidence.
I have also read that a couple of F-111s were shot down by squads of foot soldiers! The F-111s flying low, the soldiers fire their AK-47s and a couple of bullets hit the F-111s in critical systems and the F-111 is shot down… “the Golden BB theory!”
Shooting down an F-111 with Kalashnikovs?:confused: A bull**** story if ever I heard one…:rolleyes:
The F-111s flew at night, approaching the airbases very low at transonic speeds. They would drop bombs timed detonations, crater the runway and, mines to explode when mechanized equipment came to repair the runways. The F-111s also dropped extremely bright flares that flashed then burn very bright. This bothered the AAA gunner’s eyesight and night vision goggles.
I believe only 6 or so F-111s were shot down by the Vietnamese during the war, they were pretty much defenceless against it. I wonder if the Warsaw Pact could have fared any better?
No mention of the aircraft type? MiG-29SMT, or even F-5, MiG-21?
That is correct. You usually never see pictures of US or British AH-64s operating in Afghanistan with all 4 pylons occupied, usually just 2 of the pylons would have a 70mm rocket pod fitted.
It’s the same with pictures of Mi-24/Mi-35 in Afghanistan – only 2 pylons occupied in most cases.
Platform performance perhaps.
I wonder which aircraft actually has the better ‘performance’ at 4,000 metres altitude, no doubt one of the flight performance issues that the Indians were interested in?
The RuAf is also getting new Ruslans? but they don’t even keep flying the An-124s they have listed in their inventory. The RuAf has about 24 or so listed in service – but only 6 or so actually fly. Why would they need to buy new airframes?:confused:
http://russianplanes.net/registr/Antonov/An-124
http://russianplanes.net/ID32885
http://russianplanes.net/ID32885
And the status of this programme is?
Wouldn’t it be easier to fit Rolls Royce engines to any new An-124s?