( Mountain Home AFB )

Mistake in calculating the proper altitude to pull back on at the top of the manuver.

Originally posted by Arthur
Hey, just when this thread was developing interestingly, somebody else starts blabbering!

Scott O’Grady… The Man…
His F-16… His Machine…
(i know i am laughing now 😀 )

S.O.G. didn’t approve of Behind Enemy Lines though. Reason? The pilot in the movie used ‘profane language’, something the Good Pilot Scott would of course never do.
It has to be said, the man was absolutely clean and well-fed after surviving one week evading capture and surviving on grass and insects 😮

I rest my case on the statement of Arthurs extensive knowledge on this topic 😀

My comments were based on the idea that the Su would do most A2A and the SH would do strike. The SH is expensive, but line it up with a big offset givaway deal and it could be a possibility. As mentioned it can carry a wide menu of strike munitions.

Don’t know if the C/D would be an idea for FMS. The USN ones have so many hours on them from all the high ops tempo that the good airframes are being cherry picked and the real bad ones if they go to the bone yard, you wouldn’t want, unless you have some $$$ for an expensive refirb. The jet has some quirky refirb issues because of its original design as does the E/F model.

Here is some interesting commentary from a guy that works in the industry by the name of “tomcat”. This is in the ACIG F-18E/F forum thread:

Negative, it’s a Charlie Foxtrot and a complete waste of money. The F-18 C/D’s are getting the entire center section roughly from the forward wheel well bulkhead to the aft WW bulkead removed and a new section replaced. The Keel area of the 18’s are extremely life limited.

Plus the new SH have keel beam crack problems. Saving weight by spreading out fasteners, billiant…………….NOT! So once the SH reaches 500 hrs it has to go in for keel beam repairs……..

Well there you go. The F-18E/F saving money once again for the USN 😮

Problem with “low intensity” is a few new MANPADs all of the sudden make some of these slow airframes risky. I like the Sri Lanka thing with the MiG-27 ( swinger good for heavy loads on shortish fields on hot days ) .

armchair ? what?

You working for Boeing now PH ?

I think the funniest one yet is after 500-600 hours the bottom center section of the jet has to be refirbed because of structural wear.

Hey but if you read the press releases from the Navy the latest nose manufacturing methods saves x amount of dollars and is a real big savings for the taxpayer. Heck they are “saving” so much money the jet should be free. Need to teach accounting to the midshipmen at the boat club for young boys.

Watching the USN field aerospace systems the last few years is like watching the Jonestown massacre. Everyone have a swig of Kool-Aid :rolleyes:

Originally posted by SOC

Ever seen Behind Enemy Lines?

Saw the preview and felt like i saw the whole movie. Besides the plot is a rip off of the Scott O’Grady story. How do I know this? Arthur told me. He is a member of dike pluggers / sabot /waffle chapter of the Scott O’Grady Fan club. 😀 😀 😀 He is also one of Scott O’Grady’s biggest appologists. Always making excuses for him. Like the Time S.O.G. was on another mission and everyone else was knocking down those P.O.S. strafe target Yugo jets that were pretending to be combat jets and got their ass handed to them. S.O.G. goes to fire an AIM-9 at one and misses! I mean , its like clubbing baby seals for gods sakes and he misses the damn thing. I mention this to Arthur and he says something like the sun must have been in Scotts eyes or something. I mean geeezz… years from now S.O.G will flip out and kill a bunch of people and Arthur will say something like… “poor Scott, he must have been having a bad day… ”

(figured hijacking the thread was way better than rehashing the SH for the 10th time ) 😀

Be different too, some years in the future when they decide to use weapons that aquire a Euro/Chinese sat net when they fall from the jet.