A lot (way to much, IMHO), she is amoung the most serious contenders for the presidential race…
Thanks Merlock.
Air Force to buy 24 Super Hornet fighters
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21245486-31037,00.html
February 18, 2007
AUSTRALIA’S air force will buy 24 Super Hornet strike fighters.
The Australian Defence Business Review magazine said the RAAF will buy the Boeing F/A-18F jets as a “hedging strategy to offset emerging capability gaps” between the phasing out of the ageing F-111s in 2010 and the arrival of the much-hyped Joint Strike Fighter (JSF).Defence is also reportedly considering upgrades to the F-111 fleet, a move seen as shoring up any capability gap due to a possible delay in the arrival of the JSF if the US Congress moves to cut funding to military development and therefore the building of the JSF.
Purchase of the Super Hornets will be confirmed by Prime Minister John Howard in early March, Defence Business Review (DBR) said, adding that Defence Minister Brendan Nelson hinted at this in an interview with Australian Aviation magazine.
Air Commodore Mark Binskin said the Super Hornets were an option to plug any capability gap.
Boeing’s bid to sell the Super Hornet to Australia is part of a program DBR says is codenamed Operation Archangel – a global attempt to export the plane to US allies.
Unless something else happens, this sounds like a done deal…
Re: the article Mirage3000 posted……… So, how popular is Royal?
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The F-22 and F-35 are riddled with delicate systems that cover the aircraft. A few shots from the enemy, and they probably burst into flames.
And yeah, I’m sure cost is a terrible issue. Compare the 2.8 million A-10s to the nearly 2 billion F-22.
Nope. A-10 isn’t going away.
CAS comes in many forms. After long range SAMs and enemy aircraft are killed off, legacy or stealth aircraft doesn’t matter…. dropping JDAM, Paveways, and CBU-105s from 35-40k ft means AAA, medium SAMs, Small SAMs/MANPADs ( some newer MANPADS have some nice range now )…. anyway… none of these threats can touch an aircraft dropping from that high and out. Dropping sub 4 meter precision guided munitions in near any weather. I can touch you, but you can’t touch me.
A-10. It can take a lot of punishment because it ….. has no choice. Even with the up coming PGM upgrade, it still won’t be able to go high enough with munitions loaded on, to avoid those medium-to-low altitude threats. That is part of the reason we buried some of the airframes that were shot to pieces in the desert post Desert Storm. The fast movers from up high can avoid a Tor 1 with PGMs. The Tor 1 will kill every thing it looks at that fits a helicopter or A-10 like altitude set. Where… even when the JSF goes down for a guns pass on CAS after using up all of it’s PGM’s. ( Quite common today with todays CAS …. after the PGMs are used up and the GFAC still needs support, it’s guns time ). … at least the JSF has a slightly better chance at avoiding a Tor1 ( at distance ) coming down for a guns pass…Because of it’s sensors (if the threat emits )…. and that the Buick of Stealth is a narrow band stealth jet tuned for emitters that direct weapons (AAA, SAM, fighter aircraft) Fast movers expose themselves less ( time) on a guns pass. Swoop down and zoom climb up. An A-10 is slow and orbits around and if it runs into a flak/battlefield SAM/MANPAD threat… like the redcoats in the line, it just has to stand there and take it.
Fast movers have better response time out of the JSTARS stack. A-10 is kinda slow when a GFAC is asking for help. A-10s are better for pre-planned ops with short response areas (time). The most important thing to a GFAC is time when an ambush pops up and the ground troops he is with need fire support. A B-1 or teen fighter or someday JSF arriving in 10 minutes or less, beats an A-10 arriving in 15-20. And a GFAC doesn’t care much what airframe shows up as long as it can help kill what is hurting his troops he is embedded with.
You also may need to consider looking at the full JSF sensor suite. The ESM kit on it, basically makes it, it’s own little local_area Rivet Joint. Where with it’s incredible suite of diverse sensors it is also just a portable sensor node collecting and recording the electronic order of battle and passing that to anyone else on the network that is interested. If something emits, it can geo locate it quickly and accurately, pass that along on the network to other interested platforms/decision-makers, or kill it for itself.
Again, A-10 is very useful… but more for lower ground fire threat ops. A full blown ground war scenario and TOR-1_like threats will have a feast on low flying anything.
Is it just me, or is this whole saga taking on the appearance of some sort of cross between episodes of Yes Minister and Faulty Towers? :rolleyes:
My girlfriend tells me I have to see Yes Minister. Have never seen it. I am a Faulty Towers fan though. :p
Just checked with an ex Loring AFB, Maine crew chief. Back in the day, non alert maintenance guys would show for roll call and it would go something like: “Phantom, ELP, SOC, Biff,…. you are doing Alert area de-icing”… A whole shift you could be doing nothing but going from plane to plane on the alert pad de-icing alert aircraft. After all before we took down the alert area in the good old days, the alert area, in SAC was the mission. Again the non-alert maintainers de-iced in the alert area. De-ice trucks like you see in commercial airline ops. They had a bit of a longer wait time between de-icing… than lets say an airline that is worried about law suits. So 2 or 3 de-icing trucks in the alert area doing deicing every 2-3-4 hours. Just depended on the conditions.
The alert area maintainers were more focused on their alert plane. Example A model tankers had hot water cycled into the water tanks all the time in extreme cold so the water wouldn’t freeze. ( water injection for extra power on take off )….
There were a bunch of other nasty things for cold ops too. The REAL cold war 😀 There were certain extreme cold conditions where when it was decided it was too unsafe to operate, that base’s alert area went offline from the SIOP plan until conditions improved. ( There is plenty of nuke overlap in the SIOP plan )
Chief slightly sorry for rushed jet deal
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/chief-slightly-sorry-for-rushed-jet-deal/2007/02/14/1171405299822.html
February 15, 2007
Air Marshal Shepherd was asked by a Senate committee why the Government was advocating buying 24 Super Hornet jets just months after Defence dismissed concerns there were problems with the F-35 joint strike fighter.
At a cost up to $16 billion, about 100 F-35s are being sought to replace Australia’s fleet of fighter jets from 2014. But, as revealed in the Herald, there have been cost blow-outs and delays because of US budget cuts. Super Hornets are being considered to fill the gap should the F-35 be delayed.
Cabinet’s national security committee was briefed on the option just six weeks after Defence told Parliament the F-35 was on track in November last year.
“It has been done in a more rapid process than the normal process,” Air Marshal Shepherd said. “I suppose that’s a mea culpa … slightly.”
The Opposition defence spokesman, Joel Fitzgibbon, said: “They took a great leap of faith on the F-35 and were naive in their assessment about when the US was capable of delivering it … They have got themselves in a pickle.”
While the decision has been criticised by some analysts because of the Super Hornet’s poor stealth, Air Marshal Shepherd said it could be available by 2010.
“We believe it is the most capable combat-proven, multi-role fourth generation fighter in the world today,” ( based on no fact-elp )
he told the Senate Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade. Other analysts, and Labor, have suggested the Government should look at the F-15 Eagle and the F-22 Raptor – the world’s most advanced fighter jet.
In a bizarre series of events, the Defence Minister, Brendan Nelson, leaked to a newspaper a letter from the US deputy defence secretary, Gordon England, saying the “current position” of the US was not to sell the plane to other countries.
He followed it up with a press release denying he had asked for access to the F-22.
High-level sources have said the US Air Force is keen for trusted allies to buy the plane.
The one off of Savannah Georgia didn’t have the fuse component in it at the time of the mid air.
Nelsons a medical doctor. His combat aircraft knowledge is about as good as my medical knowledge. :p Not that our DOD puke is any prize either.
The generation gap: Australia and the Super Hornet by Andrew Davies
http://www.aspi.org.au/publications/policybrief.aspx?ContentID=115&pubtype=9
13 February 2007 ( a day before the defense doctor got his letter from DOD saying “no” to F-22. Makes you wonder how he asked (“I need you to write me a letter saying you won’t sell F-22”) … ( there is also a piece in one of the Australian papers today with the usual half truth expected by the media on defense issues)
Lets see… it recommends a “study for a year”. About enough time for the Howard government and his Doctor to be at risk of not being around if the F-18F decision is delayed.
When were you at Barksdale? I was there (just as a dependant, but still there and on the flightline every chance I could get) from ’87 through ’94. Dad was a crew chief woth 2nd OMS and later 96th BS.
86-92-Photolab near the hospital. Same building as the then 49 test squadron.
Wouldn’t mind having one reserve squadron of 777-200LRs config’d in a convertable cargo/pax setup. Not really for getting max cargo to some place but for getting some important cargo and some pax back and forth to a theater hub fast, and return with emergency medivacs and other stuff to the states. Just a small number. The theater hub would have loading unloading gear so no problem. Wouldn’t be used a lot but would be handy. Make it an LR with ability to receive air refueling.
I was at Carswell ( B-52Ds-KC-135As ) and Barksdale B-52Gs etc…. didn’t see a lot of snow. I’ll ask a guy I work with who is an ex B-52G crewchief that was in Maine.
Yeah, I’d say this thread is about dead.
Just look at how Meteor and Brimstone have slid further and further down (and off) the UK weapons list for JSF.
Really can’t use the MOD as a standard of performance for putting weapons into the field. The hacks in MOD and politicians are more concerned with saving a few bucks here and there instead of getting weapons into the field. What “says it all” to me …..only one of many examples… is the the gun debacle in the RAF version of Typhoon or any number of other things. Australia is actually spending money on defense so I doubt they will have any problem if they really want it.