Aww hell I got mixed up. Sorry.

I’ll let you off, it is the weekend after all. Actually a mate who drives T23s says he’s glad they never been tested in that respect, wishes they had a CIWS. Says he’s watched too many SeaWolfs go hunting for subs to rely on it as the only missile interceptor.

joining this debate very late in the day, I would challenge the assertion that the USN is the most powerful ever seen. Its power is challengable and always has been. Throughout its modern (post45) incarnation there has always been a fleet/military/air-force able to stand up to it in certain regions, or certainly deny it immediate access. Surely the RN of the early-mid 19th Century holds this title as it was utterly unchallenged and could do what it liked?

I would have thought it would be a great buy for anyone who was not going to thrash it around in heavy seas for long, she must be knackered by now, all that time in the South Atlantic early in her career can’t have been good.

Then there is the persistent rumour that she was hit in some way during corporate… bomb through a funnel is the one that comes up again again. I never know what to believe would seem difficult to have the whole crew keep mum.

Maybe but I think a lot of the Government’s grand plans for concreting over the entire M11 corridor and sounding areas has fallen by the wayside of the recession, I’m not convinced the Tories want to do the same.

Think we’ve gone off on a bit of a tangent here though……………..

You think?? 😀 It is Friday afternoon though and time for me to go.

hmmm maybe a chav firing gun?

Haha, I’ve spent most my life living in most of East Herts; Wareside, Stanstead Abbotts, Much Hadham; I’ve lived in Cheshunt for a while but i’ve always gone with the District council and refered to it as Broxbourne (the same with Waltham cross)

Snob! 😀 Dated a girl from Much Hadham, wouldn’t go back again.

btw HMS Welwyn Garden City would be better than sodding Waltham Cross (whether or not you can count it as a new town or not is another matter…)

Ah well there you have the “Garden City” Class, whole different breed of ship, a slightly older and slightly less chavvy warship than your “New Town” Class, but only just. Letchworth would be the lead ship. (A town which was built without a single pub or bar by the way).

I woud suggest equipping both with some sort of car burning device and maybe a rapid firing giro gun.

CVF should have been called carrier names, Eagle, Hermes, Centaur

Given the size of the current and future fleet, you could probably just use all the names present at Trafalgar… Love Temeraire and Leviathan!

Re the V-22: Without a rolling take-off that thing can’t even lift as much as a Blackhawk over any distance, but yet it weighs more than a CH-53 empty. And if it flies with external loads it’s not faster than a helicopter, since it flies with the engines at 45 degrees. And it can’t load 24 soldiers as said above, it can do between 15 (or a skinny 18). For the average flight deck it’s also too heavy and the engine exhausts are dangerously hot.

I can believe it, the literature, and the chaps selling them at Farnborough and paris reckon it can carry 32 with the seats folded up, but they always talk guff. It always did look like a complicated idea. Often wonder how the Fairey Rotodyne would have faired operating in a similar role, probably a good decision to bury that all those years ago.