Hi,

Roderick Aeneas Chisholm was a pre war pilot who returned to the service on the outbreak of hostilities.

As you can see from the Bio the incident did not have a major effect on his RAF career.

http://www.rafweb.org/Biographies/Chisholm.htm

Regards
Ross

Hi Gents,

Did some work on the loss a few years ago and discounted it as a loss on land.

From the RNLI Records of Service 1939 to 1946.

DECEMBER 12TH. – WESTON – SUPER -MARE, SOMERSET.
An aeroplane was reported to have come down in the sea, but nothing could be found, and later it was learned that it had crashed on the shore.- Rewards, £12 1s. 6d.

Regards
Ross

Hi,

F/O S W Lovett
P/O Davis
Sgt L R Hannaford
Sgt G W Graham
Sgt F Moody
Sgt Stanton
Sgt C E Bradbury
Sgt Crooks
Sgt W E S Cooke

If he was listed above then the details are:

31/03/43
95 Sqn
Sunderland II
W6063
Coded N for Nan

Op: Air Sea Rescue Search, RAF Half Die, Time Up 05:05 hrs

Took off to search for survivors of a torpedoed M/V, sighted the lifeboats at 13:15 hrs but flew into sea 04 30N 017 12W, at 14:05 hrs cause unknown. HMS Wastwater picked up the wounded crewmen but the others are commemorated on the Malta Memorial.

Should give you a better start.

Regards
Ross

Hi Paul,

You need to cast the net a bit wider.

11/09/41
58 Sqn
Whitley V
Z6498
D

Sgt C R D Browne, 748457, PoW
P/O R T C O White, 101531, PoW
Sgt F E Bowen, 754852 PoW
Sgt A A Goss, 912378, PoW
Sgt J Overson, 1113036, PoW

Op: Warnemunde, RAF Linton-on-Ouse, Took Off at 20:53 hrs

Ditched.

Before saying that this is the Baltic aircraft it would have paid the author of the article to have checked the ORB as it says:

“D
Last heard of at 01:09 when he got a bearing from Bircham Newton which put him somewhere in the middle of North Sea.

1 aircraft with Captain 748457 Sgt Brown CRD; second pilot P/O White RTCO; observer 754852 Sgt Bowen FE; W/OpAG 912378 Sgt Goss AAJ and rear gunner 1113036 Sgt Overson J failed to return to base and is presumed missing with the crew.”
AIR27/544

Details need to be resolved.

Regards
Ross

Ollie,

I’ve been following this thread and feel the fustration of Dave T, Les B and others.

Lots out there ranging from shells to almost complete.

While you were ignoring Dave Ts advice on ICC you also ignored the 11 Jet Provosts highlighted on this site only 2 weeks ago:

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=51364

As you say yourself, you need to get out and look.

Thats what I and every other cockpit owner did.

Regards
Ross

All ex G.I. airframes.

XS177 – T.4 ex 9044M at Valley
XW292 – T.5 ex 9128M at Cosford
XW294 – T.5 ex 9129M at Halton
XW312 – T.5 ex 9109M at Cosford
XW335 – T.5 ex 9061M at Halton
XW351 – T.5 ex 9062M at Halton
XW365 – T.5 ex 9018M at Halton
XW366 – T.5 ex 9097M at Halton
XW413 – T.5 ex 9126M at Halton
XW419 – T.5 ex 9120M at Halton
XW427 – T.5 ex 9124M at Halton

Regards
Ross

Hi Flood,

Nothing noted as a Cat E Sunderland for that date in the 1180s.

However Sunderlands had been landed on aerodromes twice before.

29/05/43
T9114

After landing to rescue survivors of O/461 the Sunderland was taken in tow by destroyer L19. When the tow rope broke at 17:25 hrs the engines were started and during the rough sea take off it struck a large wave which made a 7 foot by 4 foot hole in the hull. F/O Singleton crash landed on Angle airfield at 20:40 hrs. Although minimal damage was caused during landing the Sunderland was considered damaged beyond repair and became 4446M.

25/05/45
NJ186

Hit ground descending in cloud and damaged hull at 07:55 hrs. At 09:15 hrs the Sunderland was crashlanded and caught fire on Jurby aerodrome.

Regards
Ross

H Moggy,

Incident happened during darkness. WOp/AG would need to have been monitoring the frequency the gunners used to radio. No frequency scanners in those days attention would have been divereted to obtaining d/f fix for base when uncertain of position.

Also consider events earlier that night with this aircraft.

Earlier the a/c had crossed the East Anglia coast well S of its intended trace and then appeared to fire off the wrong colours of the day after being engaged by coastal batteries.

All leads to jumpy AA batteries with a suspected intruder around.

For completeness here is the Record of Service for the lifeboat.

OCTOBER 21ST. – GREAT YARMOUTH AND GORLESTON, NORFOLK.
At 9.51 in the evening the coastguard reported an aeroplane down in Yarmouth Roads to the east of Nelson’s Column. The aeroplane was a bomber which, by mistake, had been shot down by our own anti-aircraft fire. The motor life-boat Louise Stephens was launched at ten past ten. A light westerly wind was blowing, with a moderate sea, and there was mist and rain. The life-boat searched until 11.35, but though she found some of the equipment of the aeroplane, and picked it up, she found no sign of the crew, and she was recalled by a wireless message from the naval base. She was back at her station by 12.30 next morning. – Rewards, £20 7s.
(Source: RNLI Records of Service 1939-46)

Regards
Ross