The triple turret….is that the Russian “Gangut”?
Heard a report that the Russians have claimed a Georgian missile boat. Anyone know the latest talley for downed aircraft?
AIRtime Publishings “Wings of Fame” Vol. 8 has a VERY complete account of COAN SuE operations in the Falklands. All missions and all equipment and results covered.
A 14000 ton DESTROYER?! I blame the Brits for that!
To summarise, the exocet did not achieve its kills because it was an outstanding weapon or because it was unstoppable or any other hyperbole that has in the past been used to describe individual arms but because of what Clauswitz calls friction. Basically exocet is just another weapon that got lucky.
Agreed.
The Super Etendard was given the capability to fire the AM.39 Exocet to sink ships. The Argies were supplied with five missiles and I believe five (?) SuE’s (at the time). All five missiles were expended, and two ships (one a top of the line warship) were sunk, both a part of one of the most powerful navies in the world. All that from five missiles and a few planes from a much lesser equipped and trained enemy.
Now the Exocet (and the SuE) may not be a perfect weapon, and as with most new weapons it had its fair share of faults, but it still did what it was designed to do and that’s sink a ship. You can make excuses all day long, and if you look at most conflicts, then there is an underlying reason as to why a given nation wins a given battle. It may be due to better training or lack of tactics on the opposing side, or bad weapons or whatever else, but the bottom line is that in this case the Royal Navy lost two ships. End of story.
It doesn’t mean the Exocet (or SuE) is the end all of anti-ship weapons, but the heavily outgunned Argies managed to do something many would have thought to be very unlikely before the conflict started. That alone deserves some respect.
I assure you that after that conflict, the idea of an anti-ship missile equipped fighter or strike aircraft went up a lot higher on the list of priority threats for the Royal Navy (and indeed for all nations with a navy of some sort).
The “heavily outgunned Argies”?! Dont think thats quite right. Argentina had an aircraft carrier with superbly trained pilots (3 escadrilla caza e ataq) a 6in gunned cruiser, 2 type 42s, and 2 type 209 subs. PLUS roughly 100 land based combat aircraft. Brits had, what, 22 Sea Harriers. Thank God they had SSNs. Thats what persuaded the Argentine Navy to go back to port. But outgunned? No…..
Would it be safe to say that “stealth” could give u an RCS of…..a bee? or something
Does this “stealth” completely erase the radar cross section of the A/C?
The school CO “Maverick” bedding down his hot young subordinate ace pilot?! The Navy6 would LOVE it!
Sandy Woodward put out an EXCELLENT book on this subject some years ago…”100 Days”….a must read!
If u wanna watch a more believable and just plain better naval aviation movie than “Top Gun”……..The Final Countdown!
WAAAAAAAAYYY to PC……………What you think they don’t do ACM anymore and just use sims???? Sorry, you lost me here……..
“PC” means “politicaly correct”. ie….NO sexual tension allowed!
So……2 hits out of 5 launches………ok I guess…..specialy when those 2 hits sank a Destroyer and a Merchantman.
Top Gun 2?! NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! Is the “Top Gun” program even still around?! I thought it was combined into a big “strike warfare” school. Mira Mar is now a USMC base. I wonder if they will have such “realities” as the F-14 ubable to “shake” the A-4? Here’s a sugestion: AFTERBURNERS!!!!!!! Leave the flippin SkyHawk sitting still!!!!!!!! Really the whole idea is a farce……..naval aviation was castrated by “tailhook”…..its WAAAAYYY too PC now for this sort of thing!
Most EVERY current fighter will be better than the F-35 Abortion.