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  • in reply to: USAF Future F/A-22 numbers #2686052
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    LOL- of course the mobile S-300PMU batteries are just going to sit there in the same spot for the several hours it’ll require for cruise missiles to get there …. :rolleyes:

    in reply to: Russian Anti Shipping Missiles #2686093
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    need help in distinguishing the Klub-series —-

    3M-54E: supersonic (Mach 2.9) anti-ship cruise missile
    3M-54E1: subsonic (Mach 0.6-0.8) anti-ship cruise missile
    3M-14E: subsonic (Mach 0.6-0.8) land attack cruise missile
    91RE1: ASW torpedo for Klub-S
    91RE2: ASW torpedo for Klub-N

    I’ve never seen a picture of 3M-14E unfortunately.

    3M-51 is not part of the Klub-S/N weapons system, I don’t think, being air-launched. but yeah it’s probably related to 3M-54.

    in reply to: Russia tests new S-400 missile #2686095
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    Those are the ones, Hyperwarp.

    Hard to say. Depends. Especially with a wall of decoys like AMD-141 TALD and ITALD and a number of other decoys. Combine that with JASSM and Tomahawk which can now loiter and be fed a target later and it will have it’s work cut out for it. The 400 SAM is not a magic bullet, just a very good SAM system and a big threat.

    There was an excellent recent article in Air & Space Power Journal that laid out what sort of technology the USAF would need to reliably find and kill current generation mobile SAM systems like S-300 and its relatives but a lot of it was “notional” but feasible. The targeting cycle in OIF certainly didn’t seem to accomdoate the efficient targeting of mobile systems. The decoys and new weapons were a part of it, but there was a lot more.

    Found it:

    http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/airchronicles/apj/apj03/spr03/pietrucha.html

    in reply to: Any elite Il-38 'spotters' here? #2686097
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    Ahhhh … TOES-520, GOES-520- thanks for that.

    in reply to: MiG-29SMT vs F-18C #2686101
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    As far as I’m aware, SMT-II never happened. 917 is still an SMT- though one of the prototypes does have Zhuk-M, and was instrumental for testing that radar.

    in reply to: Russia tests new S-400 missile #2686507
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    Any good pictures of S-400 out there?

    Jane’s has some pictures in it’s S-400 section, but whether they’re actually S-400 rather than an upgrade to S-300PMU series systems, I don’t know. They show a single launcher carrying 7 missiles- 3 regular S-300P type tubes, and one 4-cell tube for the 9M96 class missiles.

    in reply to: Russian Anti Shipping Missiles #2686514
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    No? Google is your friend (hahahaha- no pun intended):

    http://home19.inet.tele.dk/airwing/ships/Bazalt.jpg

    Surprising that they got what the Granit looked like so wrong … (commonly assumed it looked like Bazalt)

    in reply to: Russian Anti Shipping Missiles #2686674
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    To a point yes, which comes from years of reading, but NO military experince what so ever. His strategic arguments are laughable to say the least. Trust me Vympel, he is not too well liked by MANY of us in Australia that believe in a balanced armed forces capability for the ADF.

    Heh- Felengauer doesn’t seem to have even that- anyway, I do think the F-111C & RF-111C provide a capability that is not easily replaced though, and I question the wisdom of the JSF decision (in part because I have no love for the JSF in the first place …)

    True. Breaching the GIUK gap and engaging NATO fleets and convoys mid-Atlantic during WW III was also a major Soviet naval mission (and not just the AV-MF). This would have found their surface ships many hundreds of miles from home.

    I wouldn’t mind doing some reading on that- the closest I ever came to finding anything substantive on Soviet Navy warplans was Red Storm Rising (i.e. complete nonsense- Tu-22M fearmongering etc …)

    in reply to: Russian Anti Shipping Missiles #2686707
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    Isn’t that article from JED Online matt? Odd that they say no photographs of the Granit have been published- I’ve seen three: one from the wreck of the Kursk, and two other display style photos. The description is wrong- they actually look like big fat versions of Oniks/ Yakhont/ Brahmos.

    I am not familiar with this guy, but he sounds like another one we have down under that goes by the name of Dr.Carlo Kopp.

    Kopps F/A-22 fetish and Su-30MK fear-mongering aside, you must admit his articles demonstrate real technical/operational depth (personally I find his discussion of F-35 vs a future Su-30MK fascinating)- Felengauer just whines about the Russian defense establishment and calls it ‘analysis’. You’ll never seem him describe a weapons system and its employemnt beyond the most general way- if at all- he hardly ever does it- that article is probably the closest he’s come to it. At best, Felengauer is good for a discussion of political wrangling, and that’s about it.

    Fair enough, but the point remains that if the then Soviet fleet had NOT destroyed the enemy in any massive volley of these supersonic weapons the carriers of these weapons would have become extremely vulnerable, as they still could not reload at sea regardless of what perverted logic Mr Felegauer has. I am trying to point out that the Chinese with their own Sovs now can not possibly hope to use them in any other way; that is, as mighty missile hosts. Operating probably as a part of task group, but once the main weapons have been expended, they too will become vulnerable to counter-surface attack.

    It depends on where they were fighting- defending the boomer bastions was a major Soviet mission- as such, they would never be too far from home ports- the USN projects power, the Soviet Navy was to try and blunt that power and defend the motherland 🙂 , rather than project it itself. To this day, none of the prospective Russian vessels being built/ in development have a land attack cruise missile in the arsenal, unless you count the SSNs with their S-10 Granat SLCMs (SS-N-21, folks, not SS-N-19), but they’re nuclear. I think that’s for the best. Russia has little interest in say, the Indian Ocean.

    in reply to: Russian Anti Shipping Missiles #2686717
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    Garry, I know what they intended to do with their supersonic missiles, but my point is that the Russian cruise missile launchers were more or less expendable.

    Read on from the Moscow Times

    Not that Pavel Felengauer idiot. 🙂 He likes to style himself as some sort of military analyst but successive reading of his columns show that the only thing he’s good at is defense-bashing (i.e. Russian aircraft are crap articles for every MAKS show, Russian generals are stupid, Russian weapons are obsolete etc etc etc) and stating the obvious (Russia doens’t have enough money). To my knowledge he has demonstrated no in-depth technical or doctrinal knowledge whatsoever.

    The current Russian Navy was built up in a great rush in the 1970s and 1980s to take on NATO and the United States in an all-out nuclear war. The notion was that all of our surface ships would be knocked out within 15 minutes to one hour of the start of hostilities.

    Our warships were therefore built to be used once. Their decks were covered with enormous tubes housing nuclear-tipped cruise missiles, but no adequate reloading facilities were built in since reloading wasn’t regarded as a feasible option. A mighty fleet was built for a single task: to fire a single volley and sink to the bottom as heroes.

    Or- to fire a single volley of massive supersonic anti-ship cruise missiles that can’t be reloaded feasibly, which, together with the other ships in the fleet would sink the enemy fleet and attain victory for the Soviet Navy. Quite frankly, that Mr. Felengauer is stupid enough to propose that the Soviet Navy designed its ships with a view to their imminent destruction based on his faulty ‘no reloading’ logic alone is new depths in the inane, even for him. In reality, the Sovremenny’s were designed to complement the Udaloy ASW destroyers in their mission. See also the Krivaks and Neustrashimiy for vessels that blow this nonsensical logic out of the water, no pun intended.

    in reply to: Mikoyan 701P interceptor #2686719
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    one question would be whether the SLBMs can reach their targets from home ports.

    They can. Regardless, a portion of the SSBN fleet was always on combat patrol- you cannot eliminate SSBNs as a deterrent. The latest generation of Soviet SSBNs don’t need to leave Russian waters to strike their designated targets, their SLBMs have plenty of range. Soviet SSBNs would stay in their ‘bastions’, defended by the Soviet Navy (including SSNs) from enemy SSNs trying to destroy them.

    as for 2,500km cruisemissles, well if they were to have such great range, then they would be sub-sonic weapons, which means that if not launched in massive numbers, they few would be able to make it through the massive screen of USAF fighters. when the goal is to ensure mutual destruction, thats not a very good result.

    Why are you speaking in hypotheticals? The range and existence of the Kh-55 is factual. Anyway, you’re exaggerating the density of USAF fighters available to shoot down low-flying cruise missiles, not to mention that none of them have the capabilities of the MiG-31 in that regard.

    in reply to: Any elite Il-38 'spotters' here? #2686844
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    Actually I mean GOES-342, got the numbers mixed up. Can we get a closer look at the sensor? I think it’s to small to be GOES-342.

    Anyway- I thought GOES-520 had the two ‘windows’ lined side by side, like on the latest configuration of the Ka-52, not one on top of th eother, like the Mi-28N?

    Where’d you get those pictures, by the way?

    UOMZ website:

    http://www.uomz.ru/eng/production/goes520.htm

    Ka-52 at MAKS 03, note the GOES-520 under the chin (also idenitifed as such by Jane’s)

    http://maks.sukhoi.ru/media/photo/maks2003/maks2003d1181.jpg

    Mi-28N (OP-1 b/n 014) at MAKS 03, note the GOES-??? under the missile guidance radome:

    http://maks.sukhoi.ru/media/photo/maks2003/maks2003d1213.jpg

    The new Mi-28N (OP-2 b/n 02) seems to have the same sensor, but it’s painted black.

    in reply to: Any elite Il-38 'spotters' here? #2686847
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    Actually I mean GOES-342, got the numbers mixed up. Can we get a closer look at the sensor? I think it’s to small to be GOES-342.

    Anyway- I thought GOES-520 had the two ‘windows’ lined side by side, like on the latest configuration of the Ka-52, not one on top of th eother, like the Mi-28N?

    Where’d you get those pictures, by the way?

    UOMZ website:

    http://www.uomz.ru/eng/production/goes520.htm

    in reply to: Mikoyan 701P interceptor #2686849
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    As for a future mig-31 replacement, what are they planning? I know Mig-31s would be upgrded to serve for a much longer while but what about later on?

    Probably nothing. A supersonic interceptor to shoot down incoming cruise missiles launched by enemy bombers probably doesn’t have first priority. They might even use the PAK FA for such tasks (it will definitely have the radar and weaponry to do it).

    in reply to: Russian Anti Shipping Missiles #2686851
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    So the land-attack Alfa program is ended. Fair enough, thanks for that Blackcat.

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