It’s comforting to know that the majority of the BLACKJACKs built did make their way back to the Rodina and were spared the scrappers. 😎
And also, that at least 3 more Blackjacks are on the way (this is a 2004 news item that I posted before) is happy news indeed.
Originally posted by Bhairav
Matt,Blackjack is the NATO codename for the Tupolev Tu-160 bomber. They’re Mach-2 capable, high-altitude planes, high value targets, which are almost certain to have high-quality fighter escort, eg. the Flanker and the Fulcrum. I doubt any Chinese MiG clones would be able to shoot one down :p
Why would they need an escort at all 🙂 ? A Blackjack would nuke 12 strategic targets from 3,000km away with it’s 12 Kh-55SM ALCMs, no need to even enter enemy airspace in most cases; especially if the neighbor was on the border.
Re: Re: Second Mi-28N prototype delivered for flight tests
Originally posted by flex297
That is nothing unusual.. I work in a product development of SIEMENS and BOSCH, we design some far less complex machines than an attack helicopter is, yet we still commonly do up to 100 design solutions or upgrades between prototypes.
Ah- fair enough then. If the first helicopter is still participating in flight tests, then I can only assume it’s validating concepts that don’t bear relation to superior design solutions employed in the second aircraft.
Originally posted by flex297
Errr, very little… Except for the fins and fuselage airframe which comes out of the same construction.MiG-29Ks had twin CRTs in the cockpit and N010 Zhuk radar. These things have already been replaced with M2
Incorrect. The ‘new’ MiG-29K is almost exactly the same aircraft as the ‘production’ MiG-29M2 (which the prototype is not- the prototype is a modified MiG-29M prototype)- the MiG-29K/KUB and MiG-29M1/M2 will be virtually the same aircraft, except that the M1/M2 will not have a braking parachute, not an arrester hook- they will both have the folding wings of the MiG-29K, for example.
M2 project was done on a shoestring budget. Still have to qualify weapons to drop with the airframe. That takes some money. All the article says is they went out and funded some munitions. Didn’t say what kind. A design requirement is one thing. Captive carry, and flying the weapons and dropping them ( and getting results ) is another.
I’m sure many weapons have been carried on the MiG-29M and MiG-29K (and there are pics around to prove it)- that should cut down significantly on expenses, considering the similarities.
Originally posted by Indian1973
how many ships or targets have the chinese ASMs sunk ?one hopes the PN goes on more than “russian ASMs wont work”
faith-based-CIWS rotfl.
LOL ‘faith-based’- I like that.
Originally posted by SD-10
What you mean by specification not remarkable? I put thespecification of YJ-83/C-803 and you should put some
specification of Exocet or Harpoon and don’t put any Russian
because they don’t work. The specification of YJ-12 is
unknown.
What the hell are you talking about? What Russian “because they don’t work?” Are you smoking some sort of narcotic?
Why C-803? Oh, it’s Chinese, I got it – never mind that it’s only a mockup and it’s specifications aren’t exactly remarkable :rolleyes:
It’s obviously the Kongsberg NSM- you know, for reasonable, unbiased people- which this forum has very frigging few of … though I must say that it’s not the best thing since sliced bread (sorry Jonesy, I know you have pictures of it up on your wall hehe)
Originally posted by Arthur
Having been in both (although the A50 was the prototype and in a really poor state), i have to say that while the E-3’s internal finish is definately better, the wider and higher cabin of the A-50 definately has it’s merits. There is more room to stretch yourself for some time during a long mission, and you don’t have to be a dwarf to reach your position either in a MAINSTAY.I don’t understand how you guys could think the A-50 is ‘cramped’ inside. Ever even been inside the cargo bay of an Il-76 and compared it with the cabin of a 707? Please.
I personally didn’t say it was cramped- but what I did hear was that there’s a lack of amenities.
One question: is the Il-76TD going to be comfortable to work in? Is there any information on how well appointed they’re going to be? Those into Soviet aircraft trivia know that the crews who transitioned from MOSS to MAINSTAY found the MOSS luxurious compared to the quite spartan MAINSTAY. Not nearly as comfortable as an E-3, I hear.
Originally posted by Distiller
Brits had those wonderful names like Gauntlet and Fury. Or maybe something Australian like Wirraway or Woomera or Boomerang (after all, coming back ain’t no bad thing for a fighter).
Meh. I’m Aussie and they don’t have any appeal for me.
I still think tacking a II onto an old name would be the best bet.
Originally posted by FoghornLeghorn
You mean the Tupolev Bombers book?
In which case it’s from Airtime Publishing.
Nah, I’ve got Airtime Publishing’s website bookmarked- I need to order that book, btw
I meant the HIND book.
REPEATS:
NO CATS. Only GRUMMAN aircraft are named after cats.
Who’s it from? I’d buy that.
Originally posted by Arthur
So they have 13 years to come up with a design, find or build a wharf (the Nikolayev shipyards are Ukrainian now), then build the boat, and commission it?Sure.
If this plan is to be remotely realistic, it’ll likely be a minimum-change upgrade of the Kuznetsov or (mayyyyybeeeeeeeee) Ul’yanovsk designs. At the same time, the Nikolayev shipyards could use the work- or, why can’t a carrier be built where the Kirovs were built?
Originally posted by SOC
Vietnam ordered the Su-30, yes? When are they due for delivery?
Dude- it’s in the first post!